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Discussion: Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - Ballot

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Post by JohnProffitt April 24, 2015 (21 of 31)
diw said:

Good question

Alas, not for this concert. Maestro Ballot has expressed interest in performing a 4-movement Bruckner 9, but existing program plans from the Festival made this not possible for August 2015. A future concert may rectify this.

Post by toddao May 9, 2015 (22 of 31)
What version of the 8th was used? I recently purchased the Jaap van Zwenden only to find it was the original version which, for me, doesn't really work.

Post by JohnProffitt May 9, 2015 (23 of 31)
toddao said:

What version of the 8th was used? I recently purchased the Jaap van Zwenden only to find it was the original version which, for me, doesn't really work.

There are two completely "original" versions by Bruckner himself. Ballot uses the Nowak edition of Bruckner's second -- and later -- version of the Eighth.

Post by fausto K May 10, 2015 (24 of 31)
toddao said:

What version of the 8th was used? I recently purchased the Jaap van Zwenden only to find it was the original version which, for me, doesn't really work.

While I don't have van Zweden's Bruckner 8, according to abruckner.com his recording is of the later 1890 version, NOT the Originalfassung of 1887.
The only two recordings on SACD that use the Originalfassung are Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - Inbal and the excellent (more easily available) Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - Young; and Nagano recently recorded the first version for Bluray: Bruckner: Symphonies Nos. 4, 7 & 8 - Nagano

Incidentally, I just purchased van Zweden's Bruckner: Symphony No. 3 - van Zweden, using the more streamlined 1877 version, unlike the majority of recent SACD-releases (i.e. Bosch, Blomstedt, Nagano, Nott, Young), which all use the Originalfassung, which while interesting is in my view a much less satisfying version of the 3rd. Van Zweden's rendering is very good indeed (clearly a disciple of Haitink!), and the sound quality second to none.

Post by toddao May 12, 2015 (25 of 31)
fausto K said:

While I don't have van Zweden's Bruckner 8, according to abruckner.com his recording is of the later 1890 version, NOT the Originalfassung of 1887.
The only two recordings on SACD that use the Originalfassung are Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - Inbal and the excellent (more easily available) Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 - Young; and Nagano recently recorded the first version for Bluray: Bruckner: Symphonies Nos. 4, 7 & 8 - Nagano

Incidentally, I just purchased van Zweden's Bruckner: Symphony No. 3 - van Zweden, using the more streamlined 1877 version, unlike the majority of recent SACD-releases (i.e. Bosch, Blomstedt, Nagano, Nott, Young), which all use the Originalfassung, which while interesting is in my view a much less satisfying version of the 3rd. Van Zweden's rendering is very good indeed (clearly a disciple of Haitink!), and the sound quality second to none.

Yes of course the van Zweden's 8th is the 1890 version.

What a jumble all these versions are.

I played it again and it worked much better than I recall from my first playings.

The recording is certainly of the highest quality and makes the Haitink/Concertgebouw seem quite average.

Post by Lute June 15, 2015 (26 of 31)
JohnProffitt said:
Thanks, John!

I enjoyed this one very much. Beautiful surround recording. And what a performance by these youngsters!
Sure, they still have room to improve technically and all that, but emotionally I found this to be quite satisfying. Bravo to all!

Post by Chris from Lafayette June 16, 2015 (27 of 31)
Lute said:

Thanks, John!

I enjoyed this one very much. Beautiful surround recording. And what a performance by these youngsters!
Sure, they still have room to improve technically and all that, but emotionally I found this to be quite satisfying. Bravo to all!

I meant to post about this last month myself - I completely agree about the accomplishment of all concerned. I don't know if this is to be attributed to John's recording, the acoustics, the playing itself, or some combination of these elements, but the string sound is some of the sweetest I can remember hearing on a recording. And that trumpeter who does the ascending arpeggio figure near the beginning of the last movement out-articulates some of the players in big name orchestras. Don't believe me? Compare this guy against the Concertgebouw trumpeter in Haitink's first recording of the Eighth (on Philips) and tell me who plays with superior articulation.

The movement timings are slow, but the time itself flies by as you listen! Kudos to everyone involved!

Post by notus August 26, 2015 (28 of 31)
I purchased and listened this CD finally at home! There is no word to describe it. So I immidiately purchased the third :) and now looking forward to the 9th, when will it be out?

Post by JohnProffitt September 3, 2015 (29 of 31)
notus said:

I purchased and listened this CD finally at home! There is no word to describe it. So I immidiately purchased the third :) and now looking forward to the 9th, when will it be out?

Thanks, everyone, for the kind comments.

The Ninth was a huge success at St Florian two weeks ago, and Gramola has planned a December release in Europe. Because of the Naxos distributor release schedule, it arrives officially in the US in February.

Post by Chris September 3, 2015 (30 of 31)
JohnProffitt said:

Thanks, everyone, for the kind comments.

The Ninth was a huge success at St Florian two weeks ago, and Gramola has planned a December release in Europe. Because of the Naxos distributor release schedule, it arrives officially in the US in February.

And still no DSD download available?

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