Post by bissie June 29, 2012 (2701 of 4131)
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canonical said:
Hi bissie
I have my eye on this:
par.ti.ta - Vadim Gluzman
I normally check eclassical for recording resolutions, but it does not seem to be listed there yet. Can I trouble you to enquire: Is this one of your new hi-rez 88.2 kHz 24 bit recordings?
Many thanks
The BIS-SACD-1972 par.ti.ta with Gluzman will come up on eClassical the day after tomorrow, that is, July 1 with the normal special offer "24-bit for the price of mp3" (sorry, zeus). Possibly you might find it more hidden even tomorrow Saturday.
No, sorry, the recording is not 24/88,2, but perhaps you can derive some consolation from the fact that it is 24/96 instead.
Robert
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Post by canonical June 29, 2012 (2702 of 4131)
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bissie said:
The BIS-SACD-1972 par.ti.ta with Gluzman ... is 24/96
Splendid. Thanks.
As an aside, whoever enters your Amazon UK entries seems to specify that they are:
Format: SACD or both SACD / Hybrid SACD
rather than just:
Format: Hybrid SACD
This is very bad, because Amazon uses the tag "SACD" to denote a single-layer SACD, and then your discs appear with a warning that they do NOT play on regular CD players ... which is of course false. When I see this, I often hit the "Update information" button and change it from "SACD" to just "Hybrid SACD" which is the correct setting.
At the time of my posting, for instance, the Amazon UK Gluzman par.ti.ta listing states Format = SACD and appears with a warning to CD users that it will not play on their machines. [ I have submitted a correction, but it would be better if this was provided correctly to them from the start. ]
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Post by bissie June 29, 2012 (2703 of 4131)
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canonical said:
Splendid. Thanks.
As an aside, whoever enters your Amazon UK entries seems to specify that they are:
Format: SACD or both SACD / Hybrid SACD
rather than just:
Format: Hybrid SACD
This is very bad, because Amazon uses the tag "SACD" to denote a single-layer SACD, and then your discs appear with a warning that they do NOT play on regular CD players ... which is of course false. When I see this, I often hit the "Update information" button and change it from "SACD" to just "Hybrid SACD" which is the correct setting.
At the time of my posting, for instance, the Amazon UK Gluzman par.ti.ta listing states Format = SACD and appears with a warning to CD users that it will not play on their machines. [ I have submitted a correction, but it would be better if this was provided correctly to them from the start. ]
Oh dear!
I had no idea. No, we don't enter them ourselves. Actually, I don't have a clue who does enter them, but I will for sure copy your post to my distributor.
Thanks both for telling me about it and for slaving away correcting.
Robert
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Robert, I have a question on the numbering of the Suzuki Bach Cantata edition. The newly issued Weltliche Kantaten bears Volume 2, and I suppose this continues the former CD only Volume 1 from 2004. Do the Church Cantatas then stop at Vol. 50 or will there be further parts to this as well. How many volumes will both complete sets have ? Thanks for some clarification.
Michael
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Post by bissie July 2, 2012 (2705 of 4131)
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arnaoutchot said:
Robert, I have a question on the numbering of the Suzuki Bach Cantata edition. The newly issued Weltliche Kantaten bears Volume 2, and I suppose this continues the former CD only Volume 1 from 2004. Do the Church Cantatas then stop at Vol. 50 or will there be further parts to this as well. How many volumes will both complete sets have ? Thanks for some clarification.
Michael
No, in spite of being Swedish, we can actually do two things simultaneously. The Cantata Vol 51 just came to us (BIS-SACD-1961) and the series will stop with Vol 55. Last recording Feb 2013 and last release late 2013. Then, new challenges...
Best - Robert
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Post by jeff3948 July 4, 2012 (2706 of 4131)
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bissie said:
"There is no bad PR". This is true, up to a point.
But if the only connection where BIS is mentioned is a negative one (it isn't), then for sure there IS bad PR.
I think we have got over the sampling frequency discussion, especially so, as we're recording in high resolution since some time. We don't record in DSD, but then we don't say that we do, either.
But newly there has been the next BIS debate, about our "too wide" dynamics, and that has fostered quite a lot of correspondence from people that simply don't understand that original is original and that BIS seemingly is one of the few labels that refuse to soften blows or raise pianissississimi. That has caused us some harm, so, in conclusion, I would have to say that
"not all PR is good PR". Neither is it bankable.
Robert
Hi Robert,
I just wanted to thank you for NOT compressing your dynamics! I didn't know other do that. A live symphony orchestra concert can get extremely loud and extremely soft. Every time I listen to Tchaikovky's Symphony No. 6 with Jarvi on (Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6, Francesca da Rimini - Neeme Järvi), eventhough this is not the most passionate performance I've heard, the famous surprise fortissimo in the first movement makes me JUMP/JOLT out of my seat everytime I listen to it. None of my other dozen or so recordings of the 6th does that to me.
Jeff
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Post by bissie July 4, 2012 (2707 of 4131)
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jeff3948 said:
Hi Robert,
I just wanted to thank you for NOT compressing your dynamics! I didn't know other do that. A live symphony orchestra concert can get extremely loud and extremely soft. Every time I listen to Tchaikovky's Symphony No. 6 with Jarvi on (Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6, Francesca da Rimini - Neeme Järvi), eventhough this is not the most passionate performance I've heard, the famous surprise fortissimo in the first movement makes me JUMP/JOLT out of my seat everytime I listen to it. None of my other dozen or so recordings of the 6th does that to me.
Jeff
Nice to read, and thank you, but, really, it is just common old-fashioned decency. Decency towards the composer but even more towards the Artis(s), who, I think, has the right NOT to to have his intentions and execution tampered with by someone that, for commercial reasons, tries to smoooooth the dymanics to suit showering listeners with mp3 gear.
I mean, what's the point of having SACD and its wonderful opportunities, and then sit and negate them by compressing the recording, either electronically or by hand?
Robert
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Post by gorje July 5, 2012 (2708 of 4131)
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bissie said:
Nice to read, and thank you, but, really, it is just common old-fashioned decency. Decency towards the composer but even more towards the Artis(s), who, I think, has the right NOT to to have his intentions and execution tampered with by someone that, for commercial reasons, tries to smoooooth the dymanics to suit showering listeners with mp3 gear.
I mean, what's the point of having SACD and its wonderful opportunities, and then sit and negate them by compressing the recording, either electronically or by hand?
Robert
Robert,
I'd like to give my opinion on this too. The authenticy of the recording by not using compression is one of the main reasons BIS is my favourite label (good performances, certain recording series' like Bach Cantatas, the recording of Aho's output, and eClassical with the Daily deals among other reasons). I've read from many sources you pointing out the lack of compression so I can trust that BIS recordings are always recorded and produced properly. I don't even care if it's 16/44, 24/44, 24/96 or whatever, I believe there's much more to it than those numbers.
With most other labels I'm always a little wary, I try to listen to samples and read about it before buying. Some records I've bought (from other labels) are just terrible, the dynamics have been pretty much killed. Just loud and very loud, without any kick.
So thanks for holding on to your principles and making great recordings for us to enjoy. :)
Antti
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Post by Chris July 5, 2012 (2709 of 4131)
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jeff3948 said:
Hi Robert,
I just wanted to thank you for NOT compressing your dynamics! I didn't know other do that. A live symphony orchestra concert can get extremely loud and extremely soft. Every time I listen to Tchaikovky's Symphony No. 6 with Jarvi on (Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6, Francesca da Rimini - Neeme Järvi), eventhough this is not the most passionate performance I've heard, the famous surprise fortissimo in the first movement makes me JUMP/JOLT out of my seat everytime I listen to it. None of my other dozen or so recordings of the 6th does that to me.
Jeff
I absolutely agree with jeff3948.Not only are the dynamics as always with BIS' recordings,very realistic,both the 6th the 5th and the 2nd in that series are also stunningly realistic recordings in most other respects too imho.Compared to some other less "micromanaged passion a bit controlled" performances,the 6th is not the ultimate one performance wise,but yes indeed that fortissimo chord gets me everytime too.Hair-raising stuff indeed.
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