Thread: Edition 100/Brahms Requiem SACD?

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Post by Scott May 23, 2006 (1 of 6)
Yesterday on eBay I noticed an SACD version of Brahms Requiem conducted by Lorin Maazel and the New Philharmonia. Couldn't download the picture to this site, but the eBay picture had a "Hybrid Multi-Channel" sticker on the front. I also notice that this SACD is not listed on this site. Could not find it on Amazon.de or other European internet retailers. Really an SACD?

Post by Peter May 23, 2006 (2 of 6)
Scott said:

Yesterday on eBay I noticed an SACD version of Brahms Requiem conducted by Lorin Maazel and the New Philharmonia. Couldn't download the picture to this site, but the eBay picture had a "Hybrid Multi-Channel" sticker on the front. I also notice that this SACD is not listed on this site. Could not find it on Amazon.de or other European internet retailers. Really an SACD?

It's really an SACD produced for a BMG record club in Germany.

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Post by Edvin May 23, 2006 (3 of 6)
The Sheherazade from Temirkanov is interesting. Has anyone heard it on sacd? How to find them, please.

Post by Peter May 23, 2006 (4 of 6)
Edvin said:

The Sheherazade from Temirkanov is interesting. Has anyone heard it on sacd? How to find them, please.

An Ebay seller called unionpower has stocks of some items, though not the above. (I haven't got any of these as there's no stereo layer.)

Post by Daland May 23, 2006 (5 of 6)
Edvin said:

The Sheherazade from Temirkanov is interesting. Has anyone heard it on sacd? How to find them, please.

It seems that Bertelsmann have discontinued the series, and on my last visit to a Bertelsmann Club store here in Berlin I found that most items were no longer available. Those that can still be bought are listed on the "Der Club" website, but there is no indication that they are SACDs unless you know that "Edition 100" means Super Audio CD.

All the SACDs released as part of the series are fake multi-channel (there is no stereo version), which explains why the sound has something artificial about it in most cases (e.g. Piano Concertos by Grieg and Rachmaninov featuring Artur Rubinstein). Some recordings are quite good, e.g. Brahms, Symphonies Nos 2 and 3 with Günter Wand (NDR), Sibelius, Symphonies Nos 1 and 4 with Sir Colin Davis (LSO) or Chopin, Waltzes, with Geza Anda. I haven't heard Temirkanov's reading of Scheherazade for some time, but was quite impressed on first hearing. I think this is one of the better performances.

Incidentally, these SACDs are very cheap. They cost less than 10 EUR, but contain only basic information about the performers and no technical details. Sometimes not even the orchestra is mentioned. On balance, the series is not something Bertelsmann can be proud of. On their website they announced a Wagner SACD conducted by Solti, but when the disc arrived, it turned out the conductor was Roger Norrington. Haydn symphonies conducted by Karajan turned out to be works by Michael Haydn conducted by someone else. The series has been in the hands of incompetent people.

According to the local press Bertelsmann want to get rid of their music division anyway, but Sony do not want to buy the other half of SonyBMG.

Post by trevor-fan May 26, 2006 (6 of 6)
Daland said:
All the SACDs released as part of the series are fake multi-channel (there is no stereo version), which explains why the sound has something artificial about it in most cases (e.g. Piano Concertos by Grieg and Rachmaninov featuring Artur Rubinstein).

I think the MC-SACD-Sound on these discs is merely like on DG'Eloquence'-SACDs.
Probably made with the same converting software-system.
It's not that bad and surely not has duplicated stereo-sound on the rear-speakers.

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