Post by braver March 20, 2006 (1 of 18)
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I'm into SACD since around 2002, and get most of my classical music on it now. I've never been much into jazz before I moved to SACD. Then, for scarcity of SACDs to listen to, I instituted a policy of sweeping my then local Philadelphia Tower Records -- I'd get at least the same number of non-classical discs as I'd get the classical ones, and I'd get at least one completely unknown SACD based on its cover only. :)
Thus I got a few jazz SACDs, and was amazed at the sound. I believe that jazz is more suitable for SACD than any other current media. In a Miles Davis recording, I could hear him walk across the stage. Also, little sounds made by fingers brushing against the instruments, breathing, etc., all come out awesomly on SACD, highlighting improvisation.
If I were to embark on a systematic exploration of jazz on SACD, which sequence of say the first 10 discs would you recommend? Then, the next ten? :)
Cheers,
Alexy
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Post by Claude March 20, 2006 (2 of 18)
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Sorry for not respecting your 10+10+... scheme.
Maybe you can find some good SACDs in my list:
/recommendations/725
Get the Analogue Production discs and MFSL jazz reissues first, because they all sound very good and some are going to be out of print soon:
/alltitles/51
/alltitles/60
The Fantasy SACDs are very uneven soundwiese, some sounding really poor. The good ones are:
- Art Pepper + 11
- Gil Evans And Ten
- Eric Dolphy - Out there
- The Wes Montgomery Trio
- Cannonball Adderley Quintet: In San Francisco
/alltitles/162
From the Sony catalogue (US and Japan), the must haves are:
- Dave Brubeck - Time out
- Charles Mingus - Mingus ah um
- Thelonious Monk: Straight, No Chaser
- Miles Davis: Kind of Blue
- Miles Davis: Bitches Brew
- Miles Davis: Seven Steps to Heaven
- Miles Davis: E.S.P.
- Miles Davis: Porgy and Bess
(and many other Miles albums)
Other great reissues:
- Oscar Peterson: Mellow Mood (and the other MPS reissues)
/alltitles/195
- Stan Getz/Joao Gilberto: Getz / Gilberto
- John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman
- Sonny Clark Trio (OOP and hard to find)
Same of the best sounding new recordings (with great music) on SACD (all recorded in DSD):
- Bob Belden - Black Daliah
- Enrico Pieranunzi: Plays the Music of Wayne Shorter
- Sky Garden: Yo Miles!
- Tony Williams Trio: Young at Heart
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Post by braver March 20, 2006 (3 of 18)
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Thanks, Claude! Yet that's a lot of information, I'd need it broken down a bit more, perhaps some good links to jazz overviews in general. When I look at jazz titles, I wonder, is it the most representative musician, or album? Would it be better to get something else to get an idea about this kind of jazz?
I'd need to get some initial coverage -- classic jazz, contemporary, etc., -- then some different styles, takes, etc. So say in the first 20 titles I'd prefer to cover most of the bases, if possible, and then refine my preferences and zoom in into particular areas.
I know it's a hard problem, so I invite everyone to compose a definitive SACD introduction to jazz for complete novices! :) Imagine a 1-hour talk on jazz to an audience which only listened to classical music before...
Jazz should be the SACD locomotive. It just sounds so much better! I don't know what is it, but SACD made me interested in jazz like no CDs could. Here's an idea -- make a cute logo,
jazz
sacd
and convert all jazz fans to it! :)
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Post by Claude March 20, 2006 (4 of 18)
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If you want a really good introduction into jazz, you must also consider CDs, as many essential albums are not available on SACD.
But here's my first list of 10 important (and not too difficult) jazz SACDs, with audiophile sound:
- Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
- Dave Brubeck - Time out
- Sonny Rollins: Saxophone Colossus OR Way out west
- John Coltrane - A love supreme
- Art Pepper meets The Rhythm Section OR Modern Jazz Classics
- Bill Evans Trio: Sunday At The Village Vanguard OR Waltz for Debby (from the same concert)
- Stan Getz/Joao Gilberto: Getz / Gilberto
- The Wes Montgomery Trio
- Thelonious Monk: Straight, No Chaser
- Chet Baker: Chet
There are other essential recordings on SACD, but I omitted them because the sound is not so good, and I presume that when buying SACDs the sound quality is important.
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Post by nevagich March 21, 2006 (5 of 18)
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Also...a must have in Jazz SACD are two Louis Armstrong from Columbia "Sach Plays Handy" and "sach Plays Fats Waller" these are SACd only .....read my reviews on this site...
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Post by Peter March 21, 2006 (6 of 18)
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Post by azure March 24, 2006 (7 of 18)
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I must say I'm a bigger jazz fan than classical
You should check out some of the Eighty Eight label SA-CDs
http://www.village-records.com/88/index2.html
Zeus, Some titles have been reissued as hybrids
Eddie Henderson - So What VRCL18806 [original SACD VRGL8806]
Joe Chambers - Urban Grooves VRCL18803 [original SACD VRGL8803]
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Post by braver March 27, 2006 (8 of 18)
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azure said:
I must say I'm a bigger jazz fan than classical
You should check out some of the Eighty Eight label SA-CDs
http://www.village-records.com/88/index2.html
Zeus, Some titles have been reissued as hybrids
Eddie Henderson - So What VRCL18806 [original SACD VRGL8806]
Joe Chambers - Urban Grooves VRCL18803 [original SACD VRGL8803]
Interesting... Why is it all in Japanese?
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Post by vonwegen March 28, 2006 (9 of 18)
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braver said:
Interesting... Why is it all in Japanese?
It is a Japanese label, therefore...
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Post by Edvin March 30, 2006 (10 of 18)
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Today I learned that Sony/BMG in Sweden has deleted all their jazz SACD´s except Kind of blue. Apparently the rest of Europe will do the same. (?)
By the way, I want to buy Brubeck´s Time out and as I understand it there are two versions on SACD. One multi channel and one two channel. How am I supposed to know which one is surround when ordering on line? They have the same number.
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