Post by posbwp55 March 12, 2014 (1 of 37)
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I have found many posters providing reviews of recordings that are not SACD's.
The reviewers wax eloquent about how fantastic these SACD's sound. Here are a few examples. The entire Hilary Hahn catalogue. Some of these are DSD (DSD does not equal SACD) but none are SACD. This is just one example of many. The problem with this is that people shopping for SACD's come to this site and mistakenly buy recordings that are not what they think they are purchasing. Whomever screens these posts should be checking the posted recording to determine if it is SACD or not. If it is not, it should not be posted.
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Post by EmNat March 12, 2014 (2 of 37)
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Which one of the entire Hilary Hahn catalogue is not a SACD?
/search/hilary+hahn
I owned four of them.
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All of the reviews and listing entries on SA-CD.net refer to SACD versions without exception. Some record companies have issued SACD versions of discs which have previously existed as 'ordinary' cd's and some have reverted to CD versions when the SACD has gone out of print. There are also some (fairly rare) instances where a recording was issued on both formats. If you follow the vendor links on SA-CD.net they will lead you to SACD versions. You will be able to see if they are out of print. Amazon do occasionally screw up however and some private vendors do not understand the difference between SACD and CD so it is possible to receive the wrong version.
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posbwp55 said:
I have found many posters providing reviews of recordings that are not SACD's.
Bart, I've been caught out by this myself, criticising the same phenomenon only to find I was totally wrong, - that indeed the reviewers and posters were referring to SACDs of recordings I thought these existed in RBCD versions but which in fact were Japanese stereo-only pressings, many not available in the west but which had been bought on the net from Japanese vendors by some of our more enthusiastic and cashed-up members. I'm pretty sure you'll find that's the case with the reviews you are referring to.
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posbwp55 said:
I have found many posters providing reviews of recordings that are not SACD's.
The reviewers wax eloquent about how fantastic these SACD's sound. Here are a few examples. The entire Hilary Hahn catalogue. Some of these are DSD (DSD does not equal SACD) but none are SACD. This is just one example of many. The problem with this is that people shopping for SACD's come to this site and mistakenly buy recordings that are not what they think they are purchasing. Whomever screens these posts should be checking the posted recording to determine if it is SACD or not. If it is not, it should not be posted.
As others have said, those people who review these do not review RBCDs. They are SACDs.
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Post by posbwp55 March 13, 2014 (6 of 37)
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OK, I am getting ready for work so I will give you just one. Hillary Hahn Mendelssohn, Shostakovich. The Sony catalog number is 89921. This is a DSD recording NOT a SACD. I have the APL Master SACD player ($35,000). It defaults to the SACD layer. There is no SACD layer on this CD.
Bart
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Post by Fugue March 13, 2014 (7 of 37)
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old-dog-newtricks said:
Amazon do occasionally screw up however and some private vendors do not understand the difference between SACD and CD so it is possible to receive the wrong version.
And at least one vendor can't perceive a difference between Thielemann and Karajan! (re the Alpine Symphony)
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posbwp55 said:
OK, I am getting ready for work so I will give you just one. Hillary Hahn Mendelssohn, Shostakovich. The Sony catalog number is 89921. This is a DSD recording NOT a SACD. I have the APL Master SACD player ($35,000). It defaults to the SACD layer. There is no SACD layer on this CD.
Bart
My much more modest Arcam player defaults to the SACD channel as well, but on one, and only one, disk will show only the CD track. This is Profil PH07028, a Bychkov recording of the Rachmaninov's Bells and Symphonic Dances. Since the disk is labeled as a hybrid multichannel, it either does not have an SACD stereo track or my player, for whatever reason, will not go to the SACD stereo track.
FYI, this disk is not recommendable for The Bells in stereo.
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posbwp55 said:
OK, I am getting ready for work so I will give you just one. Hillary Hahn Mendelssohn, Shostakovich. The Sony catalog number is 89921. This is a DSD recording NOT a SACD. I have the APL Master SACD player ($35,000). It defaults to the SACD layer. There is no SACD layer on this CD.
Bart
You appear to be referring to this SACD:
Mendelssohn, Shostakovich: Violin Concertos - Hilary Hahn
I have it - it is a single-layer SACD - and very nice sonics too. Most definitely it is a SACD.
So, my guess is you do not actually have the SACD version ... you probably just have the CD version of this DSD recording. Or perhaps something slightly unusual has happened ... like someone selling you a second-hand copy in the correct SACD box, but swapping out the SACD disc, and putting inside instead a standard CD (instead of the SACD). This actually happened to me once, when I purchased the Sony Yo-Yo Ma Kodaly SACD, and there was some naughtiness involved on the part of the seller.
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Post by hensdav March 13, 2014 (10 of 37)
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The entire Hilary Hahn catalog is not available on SACD.
However, the titles listed here at SA-CD.net are indeed SACDs.
Do you have other examples?
Perhaps we've misunderstood your observations?
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