Post by hiredfox November 19, 2012 (1 of 28)
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Not the most inspiring of themes, hopefully it isn't Best forgotten
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Post by lennyw November 19, 2012 (2 of 28)
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention via your whimsical comment. The Medtner is a wonderful piece, especially when it's complete (and not just the first part). I understand that the penultimate movement is one of the most tricky written for the piano (something like five against seven).
Have ordered a copy.
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I suppose that the Rachmaninov was included to increase sales, but a real shame, as there is no other SACD that includes any of Medtner's wonderful compositions for solo piano. For both the playing and fine RBCD sound, a Medtner recital by Earl Wild on Chesky and Ivory is thoroughly recommendable. It includes the second Forgotten Melodies op. 39. Marc Andre Hamlin has recorded both of the first two and Geoffrey Tozer recorded all three on Chandos. Medtner would be a good project for BIS or another label with a quality pianist in the stable.
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Post by wehecht November 19, 2012 (4 of 28)
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Alkan said:
I suppose that the Rachmaninov was included to increase sales, but a real shame, as there is no other SACD that includes any of Medtner's wonderful compositions for solo piano. For both the playing and fine RBCD sound, a Medtner recital by Earl Wild on Chesky and Ivory is thoroughly recommendable. It includes the second Forgotten Melodies op. 39. Marc Andre Hamlin has recorded both of the first two and Geoffrey Tozer recorded all three on Chandos. Medtner would be a good project for BIS or another label with a quality pianist in the stable.
Well of course Yevgeny Sudbin has already recorded two of the Medtner concertos for BIS, Tchaikovsky, Medtner: First Piano Concertos - Sudbin, Neschling and Rachmaninov, Medtner: Piano Concertos - Sudbin, Llewellyn, and they are very fine indeed.Perhaps more Medtner will be forthcoming from him, including some of the solo works (which I've always thought allow less room for the "Rachmaninov without the tunes" nonsense than the concertos). Still, I'm very much looking forward to Leschenko's disc, since I was much taken by her (mostly) Liszt recital
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Post by lennyw November 19, 2012 (5 of 28)
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Yes, Yevgeny Sudbin playing Medtner would be wonderful to have, though from my retail days I remember Medtner was even more box-office poisonous than Scriabin! The MAH recording of op38 is wonderful. Pity the great Earl didn't record it (I have the discs you mention, thanks though). And it's a pity about the Rachmaninov only by the fact that it could have been the (better) 1st Sonata.
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wehecht said:
Well of course Yevgeny Sudbin has already recorded two of the Medtner concertos for BIS, Tchaikovsky, Medtner: First Piano Concertos - Sudbin, Neschling and Rachmaninov, Medtner: Piano Concertos - Sudbin, Llewellyn, and they are very fine indeed.Perhaps more Medtner will be forthcoming from him, including some of the solo works (which I've always thought have less of the "Rachmaninov without the tunes" character than the concertos). Still, I'm very much looking forward to Leschenko's disc, since I was much taken by her (mostly) Liszt recital
Sudbin has not yet recorded the third and final concerto. All of Medtner's considerable output was for the piano and he is not "Rachmaninov without the tunes." He is not Rachmaninov at all, but a thoroughly unique musical voice and an outstanding melodist.
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Post by wehecht November 19, 2012 (7 of 28)
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Alkan said:
1. Sudbin has not yet recorded the third and final concerto.
2. All of Medtner's considerable output was for the piano and he is not "Rachmaninov without the tunes." He is not Rachmaninov at all, but a thoroughly unique musical voice and an outstanding melodist.
1. Obviously, if he had I'd have mentioned it.
2. I've edited my original post to clarify. I certainly didn't invent the "Rachmaninov without the tunes" remark, hence the quotation marks, but what I thought was obvious sarcasm you apparently did not, so I've tried to make my thought clearer.
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lennyw said:
Yes, Yevgeny Sudbin playing Medtner would be wonderful to have, though from my retail days I remember Medtner was even more box-office poisonous than Scriabin! The MAH recording of op38 is wonderful. Pity the great Earl didn't record it (I have the discs you mention, thanks though). And it's a pity about the Rachmaninov only by the fact that it could have been the (better) 1st Sonata.
Several good recordings of the First Sonata, including a nice recent one I like by a talented young Dutchman, Hannes Minnaar, on Etcetera
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Just ordered my copy! Thanks for calling attention to this. (Leschenko)
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wehecht said:
2. I've edited my original post to clarify. I certainly didn't invent the "Rachmaninov without the tunes" remark, hence the quotation marks, but what I thought was obvious sarcasm you apparently did not, so I've tried to make my thought clearer.
I wasn't sure, so thanks for the clarification
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