Thread: Connection cables between amp and SACD player

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Post by hiredfox September 3, 2011 (21 of 70)
AmonRa said:

Corrction: I have no reason to doubt the story about "audiophile" garden shear extecion cord making a great speaker cable. Yellow color makes it more transparent and adds depth to the sound.

this also...

Post by AmonRa September 3, 2011 (22 of 70)
canonical said:

So basically you just made this up

No, just wrong name, story is true.

Post by Peter September 3, 2011 (23 of 70)
AmonRa said:

You are correct, Peter Walker is the man. I have no reason to doubt it.

A quick internet search gives the source of the story as "New Scientist" and the majority Faulkner demonstrating Quad. Not that it matters, of course.

Here's one link

http://forums.dvdoctor.net/showpost.php?s=ef878ccd45faf430e76bb7037b151440&p=284870&postcount=18

If it happened I'm sure Tony Faulkner would remember.

Post by AmonRa September 3, 2011 (24 of 70)
hiredfox said:

how you have the nerve to put your credibility on the line so often.

I do not take myself too seriously, and I am self confident...

Post by Lucifer September 9, 2011 (25 of 70)
Thank you to everyone that replied to my post. I am a newbie at posts and experiencing SACDs, K2HD and HDCD (the goldies). I appreciate the feedback and the general consensus seems to be that speaker cable isn't worth the extreme price you can pay however interconnections maybe? Is that correct?

I have a Denon AVC-A1SE amp with a Sony SCD-XA9000ES super audio cd. Can i ask what interconnectors you have, and if you have built your own generally how much are you spending?

A polite note, whilest I appreciate everyones feedback it is a little off putting when people snide at others suggestions and don't offer any imput. Please respect others point of view even if they don't agree with yours.

Thank you all so much.

Post by Fitzcaraldo215 September 10, 2011 (26 of 70)
Lucifer said:

Thank you to everyone that replied to my post. I am a newbie at posts and experiencing SACDs, K2HD and HDCD (the goldies). I appreciate the feedback and the general consensus seems to be that speaker cable isn't worth the extreme price you can pay however interconnections maybe? Is that correct?

That's not exactly my view. Good, as opposed to expensive, cables are worth looking for. Some good cables are relatively cheap, but finding the right one is not always easy. Some cables just do not sound good. Short cables are always better than long ones, but you needn't go crazy. 1-2 meter interconnects are fine, but going longer than that on interconnect requires great care, and balanced XLR would likely be preferred.

And, no, I think ultimately speaker cables make a bigger difference than do interconnects among good (but, again not necessarily expensive) cables. Even that difference is about minor tweaking when the balance of your system is where you want it to be, because differences are likely to be quite small. Ditto for good HDMI cables, which I think make even less difference than interconnects. And, power cords, among good shielded ones, matter even less than that.

The only way to find out if what I said was true or not is to do some experimentation with your own system and ears. Borrow some cables and start listening.

Also, do not be confused by directional arrows on cables. If it is a speaker cable with a directional arrow, avoid it and try something else. It's total BS that direction makes a difference on speaker cables. On unbalanced interconnects, the arrow does not indicate "signal direction". All arrows should point away from the line stage, receiver or processor. The arrows are about cable shielding, not about signal direction.

Post by hiredfox September 10, 2011 (27 of 70)
Lucifer said:

Thank you to everyone that replied to my post. I am a newbie at posts and experiencing SACDs, K2HD and HDCD (the goldies). I appreciate the feedback and the general consensus seems to be that speaker cable isn't worth the extreme price you can pay however interconnections maybe? Is that correct?

I have a Denon AVC-A1SE amp with a Sony SCD-XA9000ES super audio cd. Can i ask what interconnectors you have, and if you have built your own generally how much are you spending?

A polite note, whilest I appreciate everyones feedback it is a little off putting when people snide at others suggestions and don't offer any imput. Please respect others point of view even if they don't agree with yours.

Thank you all so much.

The best sounding interconnects around are Cardas Golden Reference but even their lesser cables are great too. George Cardas know what he's doing. Look around the second-hand sites for bargains.

Post by tailspn September 10, 2011 (28 of 70)
Lucifer said:

Thank you all so much.

Before you go crazy buying cables, especially if you're handy with a soldering iron, go buy a length of CAT5E cable, and appropriate connectors for both your interconnects, and speakers.

For interconnects, take one wire of one twisted pair for the signal, and it's mate for signal ground. Take all the other wires and connect them together to the connector shell at the driving end, and float at the other.

For speakers, twist all conductors together at both ends of a cable, and use one, or two in parallel as the hot and another one or two as return from each amplifier output. Two CAT5E cables (8 X 24 gauge wire in each) in parallel is approximately an 11 gauge wire equivalent, and should prove adequate for most reasonable amplifiers and run length.

Markertek sells Belden 1583A CAT-5e for $0.21 a foot. Try it, you'll like it, and it will beat any stranded cable of any price. :)

Post by Ubertrout September 10, 2011 (29 of 70)
@tailspn, that sounds...utterly miserable. I can't imagine it's the best use of the OP's time. It does give nerd cred admittedly, though.

As for interconnects, I use HDMI, so I'm not equipped to comment. And you're using some high-end hardware, so you may want advice from people with more experience with the seriously expensive stuff.

All that said, people all over the 'net speak very highly of Blue Jeans LC-1 cable; a 3-foot 5.1 interconnect cable bundle is $94. It's what I would get in your shoes.

Post by stvnharr September 11, 2011 (30 of 70)
For analog interconnects and speaker cables, going diy offers the best cost effective solution, if one is so inclined and able. Beyond that, I agree that Blue Jeans offers good value and performance for not a lot of cost.

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