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avraham said:
What model Sony receiver will process DSD?
Off hand, I do not know but I do know that the 2-3 at the top of the line will do it. I think you will have to do your own research on this one unless disbeliever wants to help you out.
Again, I do not believe this is a big deal since, unless you bypass all the processing the the AVR (which I do not recommend), the AVR will convert the DSD to PCM anyway. Others will disagree, no doubt.
Kal
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Post by avraham November 5, 2010 (22 of 98)
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I purchased a STR-DN1010 Sony Receiver and have the Sony Blu-ray player BDP-S770 and Oppo DV-981HD connected via HDMI inputs. My SACDs sound great through this system. This receiver does not process DSD, but I am very happy with the sound I am hearing (PCM).
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Kal Rubinson said:
Off hand, I do not know but I do know that the 2-3 at the top of the line will do it. I think you will have to do your own research on this one unless disbeliever wants to help you out.
Again, I do not believe this is a big deal since, unless you bypass all the processing the the AVR (which I do not recommend), the AVR will convert the DSD to PCM anyway. Others will disagree, no doubt.
Kal
Sony told me DA5400ES receiver( European version EISA Award Best Product 2008/9) uses the full resolution of the DSD signal (32-bit) from input filtering through to processing the signal; then and only then does the amplifier at the final stage convert to PCM. This way you can ensure the full resolution of the DSD signal can be fully utilised (Air Studios Pioneer tweakers say this is blatantly misleading) Hi-Fi News reports after my query to them, that Sony claims to maintain the high dynamic range of SACD (at bass/midrange rather than high frequencies) by decimating the 1-bit/2.8224MHz DSD to 30-bit/176.4kHz LPCM before D/A conversion. If nothing else, the downsampling is necessary because most numeric DSP (soundfield modes etc) will only operate on LPCM. Sony's SCD-XA5400ES player is equipped with a 'universal' DSD 1796 DAC from Burr-Brown.
I have both , the AVR used bi-amped with Chord active HDMI cable and because of the H.A.T.S. system on each item (probably the lowest jitter) this combination sounds excellent. The DA6400ES has the same arrangement plus a few additional features.
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Post by Marco Sax December 24, 2010 (24 of 98)
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Hi everyone,
on the subject, my question is: does the Sony 370 output the SACD audio also through the RCA stereo plugs?
My Bryston pre doesn't have a HDMI input , and I can't figure out if I'm using the SCAD layer or the CD layer of the discs
thanks!
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Marco Sax said:
Hi everyone,
on the subject, my question is: does the Sony 370 output the SACD audio also through the RCA stereo plugs?
My Bryston pre doesn't have a HDMI input , and I can't figure out if I'm using the SCAD layer or the CD layer of the discs
thanks!
Yes. The 370 can output from the SACD layer via the RCA analog outputs but the only way to determine what you are getting is by selecting the appropriate layer for play.
Kal
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Post by Ubertrout December 24, 2010 (26 of 98)
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All this talk about Sony products and DSD...does anyone know if the 3600 ES receiver supports native DSD processing?
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Ubertrout said:
All this talk about Sony products and DSD...does anyone know if the 3600 ES receiver supports native DSD processing?
All current Sony receivers process DSD to PCM which still sounds very good ,better still if the pre-out of the AVR is connected to a high end stereo main amplifier (not through the pre of an integrated amp.) which of course will only feed the two front speakers, for better MCH SACD ,the receiver will process for centre channel & rear speakers.
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Disbeliever said:
All current Sony receivers process DSD to PCM
The ones that accepts DSD, that is. I'm not quite sure whether all current Sony receivers -- even the ES series ones -- do or whether that's reserved for the highest tier. 2-3 years ago it was.
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The Seventh Taylor said:
The ones that accepts DSD, that is. I'm not quite sure whether all current Sony receivers -- even the ES series ones -- do or whether that's reserved for the highest tier. 2-3 years ago it was.
Yes I should have said all ES receivers, which I assume would be the only Sony ones of interest to anyone on this Forum. However the 5600 although considerably more expensive would be the best buy as it includes H.A.T.S.etc. The 3600ES has received a poor review in What Hi-Fi ? who usually give rave reviews to Sony products.only 3 stars out of 5.
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Kal Rubinson said:
Off hand, I do not know but I do know that the 2-3 at the top of the line will do it. I think you will have to do your own research on this one unless disbeliever wants to help you out.
Again, I do not believe this is a big deal since, unless you bypass all the processing the the AVR (which I do not recommend), the AVR will convert the DSD to PCM anyway. Others will disagree, no doubt.
Kal
Yes, I disagree.
I prefer my source to output DSD, even though I tend to use Audyssey on my receiver.
Firstly, it may seem strange that I liek outputting DSD and yet employ Audyssey, because that means the receiver has to convert to PCM.
But I have done a lot of testing with SACD and I have found that, for whatever reason, the DSD to PCM conversion done in my receiver gives a much more favourable sound than if the source player does it.
(Plus, should I, for whatever reason, want to listen DSD->Analogue, I can easily change the setting on the receiver.)
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