Post by Peter November 21, 2009 (1 of 30)
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Post by DSD November 21, 2009 (2 of 30)
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Peter said:
Preview samples can be heard here, and acrobat files of details downloaded:
http://www.guillaumeconnesson.com/en/catalogue.php
Thanks Peter for finding the preview samples. The music sounds very interesting, and it is a DSD recorded SACD so the sound should be great based on my experience with past Chandos DSD SACDs. I'm looking forward to this one.
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Beethoven and Brahms are significantly better in all regards.
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Post by DSD November 21, 2009 (4 of 30)
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flyingdutchman said:
Beethoven and Brahms are significantly better in all regards.
For me it is not about which composer is better, or considered better or even more talented. It is about the music, do I like the music? If I do it does not matter who composed it.
As you know some of my favorite composers are under represented on SACD or absent altogether. here are a few examples.
Johan de Meij - when will we get his wonderful Symphony No. 1 "The Lord of the Rings"?
Malcolm Arnold - the spectacular Tam O' Shanter Overture is a no brainier for high resolution I don't understand why no one has recorded it yet for SACD release. Plus the English, Irish, Scottish and Cornish Dances.
Gustav Holst - he wrote many other great works besides The Planets, I would love to have the Japanese Suite and Beni Mora on SACD.
Jules Massenet - Le Cid: Ballet Music - one of the most beautiful and exciting Spanish flavored ballets I've ever heard, why is this not on SACD? I do have his Scènes Alsaciennes on a Talent SACD.
Walter Piston - The Incredible Flutist Ballet - another one of my favorites totally missing from SACD.
There are hundreds of other deserving compositions still missing on SACD, but there is always hope for the future.
Since you mentioned Brahms, I would like his 21 Hungarian Dances for Orchestra on SACD.
None of this or your comments distract from how good the previews of Connesson's "Cosmic Trilogy" sound. It is too bad you are locked into this so-called standard repertoire you seem to gravitate to.
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Teresa,
The music collection I have would hardly be called standard repertoire. It encompasses early to modern, classical to post-romantic and neo-classical. I have more variety in my collection than you'll ever have.
You, on the other hand, have a collection that gravitates toward the weird. I don't begrudge you your tastes, but to throw out music that is emotional, is dramatic, is filled with tremendous themes, is to throw out what your favorite composers listen to and who in many ways get inspiration. Bach, Beethoven, Brahms are fundamental to anyone who suggests they love music. Edvin pointed out earlier how your attention span seems to be captured by the miniature and insignificant. I would agree.
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Post by zeus November 21, 2009 (6 of 30)
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flyingdutchman said:
Edvin pointed out earlier how your attention span seems to be captured by the miniature and insignificant. I would agree.
I think we all know that Teresa's music tastes are, er, limited so it doesn't help to antagonize the situation. Thankfully, what's being offered on the format is much broader (if largely classical these days) and we can all take our pick according to taste (or otherwise). There will always be gaps in the repertoire available though. It's constructive to focus on what's available rather than what isn't.
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Post by DSD November 21, 2009 (7 of 30)
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flyingdutchman said:
Teresa,
The music collection I have would hardly be called standard repertoire. It encompasses early to modern, classical to post-romantic and neo-classical. I have more variety in my collection than you'll ever have.
You, on the other hand, have a collection that gravitates toward the weird. I don't begrudge you your tastes, but to throw out music that is emotional, is dramatic, is filled with tremendous themes, is to throw out what your favorite composers listen to and who in many ways get inspiration. Bach, Beethoven, Brahms are fundamental to anyone who suggests they love music. Edvin pointed out earlier how your attention span seems to be captured by the miniature and insignificant. I would agree.
Are you quite sure? As I have compositions (in all formats) by hundreds of composers, more than half by names most people would never recognize. That is because I buy what I like not what other people tell me to like.
Guillaume Connesson is a new major discovery for me, I love modern composers who write enjoyable, exciting melodic music. I love finding new to me works from new to me composers, discovery is half the fun of Classical music to me.
I will admit to the naked eye that my collection gravitates toward the weird but my ears tell me it's what I love and that is what counts to me. Also in the past I have given credit to the contributions that composers I'm not terribly fond of have had on some of my favorite composers music.
Everyone should listen to what they like and not be chastised for what they do not like. Have I ever insisted that you or anyone else likes any of my "weird" composers? Anyway this tread is about Guillaume Connesson not Beethoven or Brahms so you comments were not welcomed.
Happy listening to whatever you like,
Teresa
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DSD said:
Are you quite sure? As I have compositions (in all formats) by hundreds of composers, more than half by names most people would never recognize. That is because I buy what I like not what other people tell me to like.
Guillaume Connesson is a new major discovery for me, I love modern composers who write enjoyable, exciting melodic music. I love finding new to me works from new to me composers, discovery is half the fun of Classical music to me.
I will admit to the naked eye that my collection gravitates toward the weird but my ears tell me it's what I love and that is what counts to me. Also in the past I have given credit to the contributions that composers I'm not terribly fond of have had on some of my favorite composers music.
Everyone should listen to what they like and not be chastised for what they do not like. Have I ever insisted that you or anyone else likes any of my "weird" composers? Anyway this tread is about Guillaume Connesson not Beethoven or Brahms so you comments were not welcomed.
Happy listening to whatever you like,
Teresa
I listened to the clips and while it certainly looked intriguing at first (before listening), I wouldn't say his music is all that terribly melodic. It started grating on my nerves. I do give it up to Chandos for giving us something other than the usual Mahler, though. I'd like to see them do some of their more unusual Romantic or post-romantic recordings in SACD (Grechaninov symphonies for example).
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Post by raffells November 22, 2009 (9 of 30)
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Peter said:
Preview samples can be heard here, and acrobat files of details downloaded:
http://www.guillaumeconnesson.com/en/catalogue.php
Peter
MANY thanks for posting the link.
Some of us are gratefull that we were given the opportunity to listen
and get a small insight into this composer works.
Also many thanks for NOT giving us YET another boring repetitive list of
"What I like is" which has No place being posted on the thread.
I would also like to thank you for NOT pointing out that it is not
"two other composers" which for those normal intelliegnt posters on this
site was known information and clearly audible.
It IS interesting to note that just a few bars from a sample can initiate
great prophetic utterences about an unreleased SACD disc of which I havent
yet heard a sample of the Newer work.I suppose the quite different music shown
up in the three samples I heard would indicate yet another possible varied sounding work.
One good thing that did occur as a result of you posting was that it gave
me the opportunity to revisit the Chandos site and its forum.
We must consider ourselves fortunate that the founder of this form has made some postings and responded to questions re sacds.Thankfully some of our grumpier posters with their ambiguous postings are not on that forum.
This item will certainly be on my hitlist,then again Im not predudiced.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prejudiced
Dave
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Clips from past works can determine a lot. I will not normally go out of my way to purchase something if I find from the clips that I will or won't like the music. A newer work will often be much like what he has produced before. I didn't find him very melodic and didn't like what he has produced. Of course, knowing your logic, you'll make it out that I don't like the French because I said something about Teresa's musical taste being weird. Now that's slippery slope logic typical of Raffy.
I'll make sure to become a member of the forum you went to, just for you. Thanks so much for reminding me.
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