Post by Merlin April 23, 2009 (1 of 11)
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Just got a reply from the Concord Music Group that says they won't be releasing "Down The Wire" on SACD. I guess this is what we've been expecting, just a shame it had to happen.
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Send them an email that says "no sacd no sale". I did and I'm sticking to my guns. People are accepting inferior products and paying excessive prices for those products. "We the consumer" control the market place and it's the consumer that accepts any thing that's put before them that cause this type of corporate behavior.
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Post by DSD April 23, 2009 (3 of 11)
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hookedondsd said:
Send them an email that says "no sacd no sale". I did and I'm sticking to my guns. People are accepting inferior products and paying excessive prices for those products. "We the consumer" control the market place and it's the consumer that accepts any thing that's put before them that cause this type of corporate behavior.
Right On! In these tight economic times record companies are leaving off the SACD layer on new releases to save a few pennies we must prove to them they are penny wise and pound foolish! NO SACD, NO SALE!
An open letter to the world's recording companies.
http://sacdlives.blogspot.com/2009/02/open-letter-to-worlds-recording.html
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Post by Claude April 24, 2009 (4 of 11)
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With Spyro Gyra this makes sense. Elevators generally have no SACD playback.
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Post by wolf359 April 24, 2009 (5 of 11)
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hookedondsd said:
Send them an email that says "no sacd no sale". I did and I'm sticking to my guns. People are accepting inferior products and paying excessive prices for those products. "We the consumer" control the market place and it's the consumer that accepts any thing that's put before them that cause this type of corporate behavior.
I would not generally buy any Spyro Gyra. Not to my taste but in SACD I might be tempted so I am thinking of sending an Email along similar lines to Concord just to wind them up!! not that they will reply or care.
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Post by jakeroux April 24, 2009 (6 of 11)
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This ups the count to three this year of pop or pop-ish artists who we could previously count on to provide new releases in SACD, whose latest release did not include that format (SG, Diana Krall and Depeche Mode). You could probably throw Patricia Barber into that category as well, although her latest non-SACD release was in 2008. I'm anxious to see what Sting does next time around. The times, they are a changin'.
On a not completely unrelated tangent, I just recently stumbled across (I believe through a comment in a review on this site), the fact that Peter Gabriel's DVD Play: the Videos (2004), contains DTS 96/24 mch remixes of all 23 tracks. About as good as it gets these days for us hi-rez-ish mch pop fans. To further that tangent, I would guess that Kraftwerk's Minimum/Maximum in DTS 5.1 DVD for about $20 would suffice nicely in lieu of the corresponding SACD, considering the ridiculous asking prices for that set.
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jakeroux said:
This ups the count to three this year of pop or pop-ish artists who we could previously count on to provide new releases in SACD, whose latest release did not include that format (SG, Diana Krall and Depeche Mode). You could probably throw Patricia Barber into that category as well, although her latest non-SACD release was in 2008. I'm anxious to see what Sting does next time around. The times, they are a changin'.
On a not completely unrelated tangent, I just recently stumbled across (I believe through a comment in a review on this site), the fact that Peter Gabriel's DVD Play: the Videos (2004), contains DTS 96/24 mch remixes of all 23 tracks. About as good as it gets these days for us hi-rez-ish mch pop fans. To further that tangent, I would guess that Kraftwerk's Minimum/Maximum in DTS 5.1 DVD for about $20 would suffice nicely in lieu of the corresponding SACD, considering the ridiculous asking prices for that set.
The sad thing about 96/24 DTS unless it applies to Blu-Ray's DTS Master AUDIO, is that all you're getting is 16 bit/48 resolution....the disc may have been sourced from 96/24, but on a regular DVD and even the DTS CDs, the sound is compressed audio (DTS has a 3 to 1 compression scheme while DD 5.1 has a 13 to 1 compression scheme....that's why DTS always sounded better than DD. I also heard that DTS Master Audio (a true 96/24 source) is preferable to Dolby True HD (this applies to Blu-ray, only). I've also done my part to encourage ConcordMusicGroup to release product in SACD but am afraid this will fall on deaf ears....let's hope the employees who were either let go or quit (including the brains behind the "old" TELARC) will fill in SACD gap, as they have promised to do as they venture out of their own.
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DSD said:
Right On! In these tight economic times record companies are leaving off the SACD layer on new releases to save a few pennies we must prove to them they are penny wise and pound foolish! NO SACD, NO SALE!
An open letter to the world's recording companies.
http://sacdlives.blogspot.com/2009/02/open-letter-to-worlds-recording.html
It costs the companies more than pennies. It is a completely different mastering process, which means double the cost. If the artist is a heavy hitter, then they are using heavy hitter engineers throughout. A mix engineer with Grammy credits and airplay like the Lord Alges, Al Schmitt, Bruce Swedien, etc is going to cost them $5k per song on average. Mastering is going to cost about $5k +/- for the record. There are more royalties to be paid for multiple releases on multiple formats, etc, etc.
What seems simple is rarely the case. The companies are not going to throw money away in hopes that the 2,000 people in the USA that listen to SACD will buy one.
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jakeroux said:
I'm anxious to see what Sting does next time around. The times, they are a changin'.
I guess a Blu-ray Disc, also considering The Police's Certifiable was released on BD.
lowdbrent wrote:
> The companies are not going to throw money away in hopes that the 2,000 people in the USA that listen to SACD will buy one.
Oh, come on. There are some 20 million SACD players in the world, of which several million must be in the US. Sure, not all of them actively use SACD but there must be hundreds of thousands who do, if not a million.
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Post by Claude April 26, 2009 (10 of 11)
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The Seventh Taylor said:
I guess a Blu-ray Disc, also considering The Police's Certifiable was released on BD.
That was mainly a video release, although a CD version was included as well.
If it had not included video material, it would not have been on Blu-ray.
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