Post by ramesh January 18, 2009 (111 of 321)
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Fugue said:
Yes, I know, thank you. Since I am an English teacher, I have a decent vocabulary. I chose the phrase "sound lover" for a better parallel structure in my sentence. (As far as I know, there isn't an equivalent single word for a music lover ("musicophile" is not a word, and one finds "musicphile" only in the Urban Dictionary.) The phrase also allowed me to emphasize the two critical elements, sound and music.
We now return to regularly scheduled programming...
MELOMANE
see Shorter Oxford English Dictionary
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Post by Fugue January 18, 2009 (112 of 321)
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ramesh said:
MELOMANE
see Shorter Oxford English Dictionary
Yes, I know, but melomania connotes an unreasonable or unhealthy enjoyment--almost a disease, whereas audiophila merely connotes a passion for sound; it's a matter of extremes, so one can't make a direct parallel between the two conditions.
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Post by Peter January 19, 2009 (113 of 321)
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TerraEpon said:
Sure, there's an Anderson disc. But that's one disc (which I own and enjoy), made of recordings from the 60s (if not 50s) -- Naxos's series is up to 5, and I believe they still have one or two more. (Looking again, ok two, but that Capriccio one is quite expensive, and I doubt it hits the idiom quite like Slatkin)
I understand that Vol5 is the last of the Anderson series. The Capriccio disc which I have on RBCD is an old recording, I doubt it's hi-res or true surround. Perhaps someone who knows can comment?
Anderson's own recordings on MCA are wonderful - analogue so could be issued to good effect on SACD!
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Post by Peter January 19, 2009 (114 of 321)
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Post by swestbom January 19, 2009 (115 of 321)
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bissie said:
Hello,
this is Robert from BIS, aka bissie.
In the current business climate even we have to look at bean-counting.
Since we release all our SACD:s as Hybrids and since we don't charge a premium, but absorb the extra costs for recording, editing, mastering and production of an SACD, selling at the same price as a RBCD,
*I would be extremely interested in knowing how many EXTRA copies we sell because of the SACD option.*
Mathematically, starting from the edited master tape, we need to sell some 600 EXTRA copies of the production in order to break even for the extra costs of producing the SACD, compared to releasing only a RBCD.
Question: do we do it? Since we don't have double inventory, there is no way for me to tell.
Obviously there are other factors as well: prestige, good-will, satisfaction with a superb product, but, when it comes to paying the salaries (BIS is nowadays probably the only classical company in the world with its own, full-time production staff - we have 7 producers/engineers hired that roam the 6 continents of the world recording with our own equipment) we need the green stuff.
So, since this would be the relevant Forum to ask something like that: how many of you, who do buy the occasional BIS SACD would abstain from doing so, were the identical programme to appear only as RBCD?
I think this is a relevant question to put, especially so, since many of my colleagues seemingly have made the same calculation - and then abandoned SACD.
Best - Robert
I only buy SACDs, if the BIS productions were RBCD I would not buy them. If you start releasing on Blu-ray (with video please, no reason not to include it) I will buy those as well, heck, I might even finally buy a Blu-ray player :)
Once 5.1 DSD or even 96/24 LPCM is available as a download I can burn to a disk or hard drive I will switch to that (along with HDMI support for it to a receiver/controller from a PC). No reason to have to go through physical pressings.
The issue is one of quality, it is out there and I have no interest in going back to RBCD. No DRM, no Microsoft, no Apple! I will buy everything you produce that is good (90% of it), along with Pentatone, HM, Ondine, Telarc, etc. etc.
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Post by swestbom January 19, 2009 (116 of 321)
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Fugue said:
Not to overly generalize, but it strikes me that people who limit themselves to only SACD are SOUND lovers, not necessarily MUSIC lovers. Sure, I'd prefer that all CDs were SACD, but the music is paramount to me.
Not true! live music (lots of musicians in my circle) and SACD, I hold out for SACD because I don't want to encourage CD or worse yet MP3.
Almost exclusively Classical and some Jazz (no instrument cleaners need apply).
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Post by Alan January 19, 2009 (117 of 321)
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SACD is an important factor in my buying decision.
SACD reinvigorated my interest in recorded music. It has induced me to sample composers and compositions that I would not have otherwise purchased. It has also induced me to buy recordings of compositions I already had on RBCD.
When choosing between competing performances of the same composition, an SACD recording has a substantial advantage over an RBCD recording. Nevertheless, I do purchase RBCDs when competitive SACD versions are not available.
In summary, if BIS abandoned SACD, I expect the number of BIS recordings I purchased would fall precipitously just as the number of Hyperion recordings I purchased has fallen sharply since it ceased producing SACDs.
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Post by mikkoko January 19, 2009 (118 of 321)
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My two cents having just bought the Bis-SACD containing Weber's clarinet concertos (a wonderful record, great playing and a very realistic multichannel sound): these kind of records increase my threshold on buying ordinary cd's, although that occasionally happens. On the other hand, if a sacd exists, I am willing to explore more unknown territory (have bought e.g. Bis SACDs containing music by Ge Gan-Ru and Skalkottas). I hope BIS is going to record soon to be premiered Aho's concerto for saxophone quartet and orchestra!
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Post by aoqd22 January 19, 2009 (119 of 321)
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mikkoko said:
My two cents having just bought the Bis-SACD containing Weber's clarinet concertos (a wonderful record, great playing and a very realistic multichannel sound): these kind of records increase my threshold on buying ordinary cd's, although that occasionally happens.
You might want to add Martin Fröst's new disc of Crusell Clarinet Concertos to your wish list my arrived last week and I can heartily recommend it!
Crusell: Clarinet Concertos - Fröst, Kamu
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Post by hiredfox January 19, 2009 (120 of 321)
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I buy only SACD's now as the 44.1kHz/16 bit PCM format is inadequate as a data capture system and DAC recovery of data is wholly inconsistent and error strewn. Think about it, in the PCM format a sine wave of 4KHz is sampled just 11 times so no wonder high frequency notes sound harsh, grainy and synthetic even if they get the timing intervals exactly right, which they don't. The same sine wave is sampled 64 times more often as DSD....
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