Post by stvnharr October 4, 2008 (11 of 23)
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RWetmore said:
I think Blu-ray is likely to be around and coexist with downloads for at least 10 years (maybe 20 or more), so it could pose a threat to SACD, especially since all blu-ray players will be able to play the discs.
Will classical and jazz move away from SACD in favor of Blu-ray audio discs? I think they could if audio on blu-ray gains more market share than SACD, and with SACDs market share as tiny as it is, surpassing it won't take much.
Is any of this based on actual information, or just fanciful, meaningless speculation on your part?
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Post by RWetmore October 4, 2008 (12 of 23)
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stvnharr said:
Is any of this based on actual information, or just fanciful, meaningless speculation on your part?
What do yo mean? Of course it's speculation.
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Post by stvnharr October 4, 2008 (13 of 23)
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RWetmore said:
What do yo mean? Of course it's speculation.
Well, I just thought maybe you had inside information.
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Post by fabiete October 5, 2008 (14 of 23)
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sabbath said:
I just bought a SA-CD player (Sony SCD-CE595 from Best Buy) and some hybrid cds (from BMG Music Service). But I'm wondering if Blu-ray audio is gonna make the SA-CD format obsolete? A SA-CD has 4.7gb-8.5gb and a Blu-ray has 25gb-50gb, so if I buy a bunch of SA-CD's now will they be obsolete in a years time? Have any of the music companies said they will bypass SA-CD for Blu-ray Audio?
I agree, especially with trntbl, with many of the comments here. Many classical music record houses, good ones like Alia Vox, Channel Classics, etc., keep coming out with new great quality SACDs which is a real pleasure to listen to. SACDs which can be with us for quite a while still. Personally I would do with more opera and jazz as well but fine...... you can't have it all.
As long as we can count on suitable hardware it will be alright.
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Post by dobyblue October 6, 2008 (15 of 23)
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Sam said:
This has all been done before. DVD, remember? With video, without video, with CD, without CD, etc.
Blu-ray is just a better DVD. It's not going to rejuvenate music sales, or replace CD or SACD (downloads will, someday).
Actually it hasn't - DVD-Video was never used to try and deliver music to the home, only concert footage.
Where albums are concerned DVD-Audio was used and this was
a) not playable in high resolution unless you had a DVD-Audio player which would have caused people to not be interested
b) involved in a format war
c) required three pairs of cable
If they just intend to deliver audio, you're right it won't succeed. If they intend to use it for what it's capable of, it could definitely supplant CD when the record companies start including the CD with the Blu-ray as a "digital copy"
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dobyblue said:
DVD-Video was never used to try and deliver music to the home, only concert footage.
Not quite -- I've got a shelf full of music DVDs and only a handful contain concert footage. Most of them are music video collections.
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Post by Peter October 6, 2008 (17 of 23)
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dobyblue said:
Actually it hasn't - DVD-Video was never used to try and deliver music to the home, only concert footage.
Is this true? Classic Records and HDTT both issue hi-res discs which play on ordinary DVD-V players.
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The Seventh Taylor said:
Not quite -- I've got a shelf full of music DVDs and only a handful contain concert footage. Most of them are music video collections.
Me too. I've got 4 classical music DVD-Vs (sold by Amazon as DVD Audios), and Jean Michel Jarre's "Aero" album. As anyone that owns this album will know, the only "footage" is of the eyes of a french actress, and a bit of her nose!
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Post by DSD October 7, 2008 (19 of 23)
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Peter said:
Is this true? Classic Records and HDTT both issue hi-res discs which play on ordinary DVD-V players.
Yes Peter the Classic Records HDAD and DADs play at 24 Bit 96kHz PCM on regular DVD players using LPCM which is part of the DVD spec, But they are 2 channel stereo only as regular DVD only supports 24 Bit 96kHz in 2 channel stereo.
Also the older Chesky 24 Bit 96kHz DVDs also are playable at full resolution on regular DVD players.
Here is my review of some of HDTT's: http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue39/hdtt.htm
I have been a champion of 24/96 DVD since the first Chesky and Classic Records 24/96 DVDs came out. And I always thought this could be the high resolution format for the masses as nearly everyone has a DVD player. But it was shunned by the majors as it offered no copy protection.
I like SACD better but it failed to capture most music lovers attention.
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Post by Peter October 7, 2008 (20 of 23)
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Ah. I haven't read the booklets properly. So the 3 channel 24/96 only operates on the DVD-A side?
I have to say I play the DVD-A version; depending on how your player is set up it will select 2 or 3 channel automatically and correctly for your preferred replay.
The HDTT DVDs are all 2 channel - I've two coming in the post, recent issues of Spanish music conducted by Burgos and Walton/Lecocq by Irving. I could download these much more cheaply but my instinct tells me HDTT's professional burners will make a far better job of things. Teresa, have you got these yet?
I'll get back on topic and mention these all play like SACDS, i.e. without the aid of a TV display.
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