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I just got a Cambridge Audio DVD87, which as some might know plays SACDs.
As luck would have it, I picked up the War of the Worlds SACD set a couple of years ago in a bargain bin.
My amp/receiver and speakers are just a generic all in one box panasonic.
I understand I have to buy a 5.1 audio cable set to play SACDs through my or any amp. Would there be benefit to listening to all my DVDs etc via analogue cables rather than digital? I imagine the DAC in my player is superior to the one in my receiver.
I presume, considering it's out of the box, I will set up everything to be "small" in my player's audio management setup. Like I said the system isn't the greatest, the sub is even passive...
I digress.
I notice that in my players setup prefs, there's an option to have the SACD play the multichannel or stereo mix. And I notice the WarOTWorlds disc has both mixes on it. Is this always the case? What if I set everything to multichannel, and want to listen to the stereo mix one time? Do I have to change the prefs or is there a quick select on the remote I don't know about.
I am interested in getting the Depeche Mode SACDs, at least three of them anyway. Are they stereo, multichannel, or both? I presume even the stereo version sees the benefit of the format?
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Post by zeus February 8, 2007 (2 of 9)
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You'll have to use analogue connections from the player to your receiver. The high-resolution stream isn't sent on the digital out, and your receiver wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.
Pretty well all SA-CDs include a stereo high-resolution signal, and most now multichannel as well. A disc with both will be flagged as "Stereo/Multichannel" in the database here so you can check prior to purchase if needs be. Your player/remote should allow easy selection from Stereo to Multichannel on a disc basis but I don't know how it works on your player. It should be in the manual somewhere.
Welcome aboard!
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Post by Edvin February 8, 2007 (3 of 9)
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I´m not an expert on technical issues, but I think you can set your equipment to multichannel. If you play a stereo SACD you will only have two channels input, and thus two channels out.
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Post by raffells February 8, 2007 (4 of 9)
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trouble75 said:
I just got a Cambridge Audio DVD87, which as some might know plays SACDs.
As luck would have it, I picked up the War of the Worlds SACD set a couple of years ago in a bargain bin.
My amp/receiver and speakers are just a generic all in one box panasonic.
I understand I have to buy a 5.1 audio cable set to play SACDs through my or any amp. Would there be benefit to listening to all my DVDs etc via analogue cables rather than digital? I imagine the DAC in my player is superior to the one in my receiver.
I presume, considering it's out of the box, I will set up everything to be "small" in my player's audio management setup. Like I said the system isn't the greatest, the sub is even passive...
I digress.
I notice that in my players setup prefs, there's an option to have the SACD play the multichannel or stereo mix. And I notice the WarOTWorlds disc has both mixes on it. Is this always the case? What if I set everything to multichannel, and want to listen to the stereo mix one time? Do I have to change the prefs or is there a quick select on the remote I don't know about.
I am interested in getting the Depeche Mode SACDs, at least three of them anyway. Are they stereo, multichannel, or both? I presume even the stereo version sees the benefit of the format?
Hi trouble ?
Im not sure but suspect you saying you have surround system ? In which case USE analogue interconnects./its easier and probably the only correct way..The 5 or 6 channels outputs are different to the digital Dolby as used on your Panny..(and a lot better than Dolby usually).If you have a subwoofer I would not set management to "small" it may infact then boost low level signals.?..
No problems if you can switch to stereo with zapper.Just set it to two channels and you will hear all the music..On some DVDAs you get a downmix of 5.1 to 2 channels sometimes BUT NOT on sacd..its pure stereo. .Theres been a thread about surround on this forum ,its worth reading..
..There are usually 3 tracks on the sacd disc and it normally explains this on the discs/boxes themselves..Also some surround is 3 ? or 4 channel and some 6...Ive even got a 7 channel?..
In general, One track is normal Cd 16 bit (One layer)These are called Hybrid discs...So you will have to set your player to sacd deafault.. The other layer has two seperate tracks..Inner and outer...stereo and surround..Set whichever you want as default.Untill you use analogue interconnects you will only be getting stereo..
I suggest you read the notes that came with your Cambridge...
One of the main objects of sacd is improved sound due to higher wider sampling...Not always a benefit as this gives you wider dynamics (can go louder?)and higher frequencies(Can upset some preamps) So it will be interesting to see if you can notice the difference and even post a review of what you have noticed..stereo and or surround .some peoples reviews say more about how their systems are working than they realize...
Note Some if not all the best speakers are in One box.?..
Use this site to find out exact details of each disc...Its probably the only site thats reliable for information as there are too many very keen members to allow any mistakes..enjoy yourself here..and join in....
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raffells said:
If you have a subwoofer I would not set management to "small" it may infact then boost low level signals.?.
So what would you set the player's management to be, given that my speakers are from one of those all in one kits, where you get a 5.1 HT receiver, and then all the required speakers, where all the speakers (except for the sub) are the same etc. I am sure the drivers in them are no more than 4", so I appreciate they're probably not particularly suitable for hi-res audio!
Thus far I think i've ascertained that in any situation, be it DVD-A, SACD or in fact plain old 5.1DD/DTS movie DVDs, it's probably best to get the audio from my player to my receiver via analogue cables. I will invest in some soon enough.
In the meantime, and I know I should just try it and see, as this player also doubles as my regular RBCD player I have it hooked up with a plain stereo RCA cable, will the SACD hi-res stereo mix output via these connections, or does it still need the 5.1 connections regardless?
I think I am asking whether or not the SACD hi-res stereo mix of a disc is output via FL, FR and LFE (excuse me if that doesn't make sense or is the wrong terminology - hopefully you know what I mean), or just left and right from the cd output? or both?
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Post by raffells February 8, 2007 (6 of 9)
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trouble75 said:
thanks for all your help.
so, thus far I think i've ascertained that in any situation, be it DVD-A, SACD or in fact plain old 5.1DD/DTS movie DVDs, it's probably best to get the audio from my player to my receiver via analogue cables. I will invest in some soon enough.
In the meantime, and I know I should just try it and see, as this player also doubles as my regular RBCD player I have it hooked up with a plain stereo RCA cable, will the SACD hi-res stereo mix output via these connections, or does it still need the 5.1 connections regardless?
I think I am asking whether or not the SACD hi-res stereo mix of a disc is output via FL, FR and LFE (excuse me if that doesn't make sense or is the wrong terminology - hopefully you know what I mean), or just left and right from the cd output? or both?
No Its the seperate stereo output you have connected..ie from the stereo layer in the case of sacd..
however..
It could be anything as I described from a DVD A...Even if it says theres a stereo track on it or on the box...this could mean that the dvda part of your player will DOWNMIX the five channels layer to stereo and out put it via the two stereo analogues...Seems like ilegal trade descripton but apparantly they got away with it...Sometimes some machines will tell you..However other machines ie Denons tell you the opposite and get it wrong...ie shows downmix light and its a genuine stereo...No such problems with the SACD...simple and straightforward..stereo OR Surround..
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raffells said:
No Its the seperate stereo output you have connected..ie from the stereo layer in the case of sacd..
Apologies, but I am still confused!
Maybe if I try explaining further...
I have the regular stereo output of the player, hooked up to the CD input of the amp.
If I choose to play the hi-res stereo mix of an SACD, with CD selected on my amp, will I hear anything? What will I hear?
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trouble75 said:
Apologies, but I am still confused!
Maybe if I try explaining further...
I have the regular stereo output of the player, hooked up to the CD input of the amp.
If I choose to play the hi-res stereo mix of an SACD, with CD selected on my amp, will I hear anything? What will I hear?
It depends on how your player works - not knowing it, I can't help. I've had one which did, one which didn't. If it was food, I'd say suck it and see...
Welcome & enjoy!
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Post by raffells February 8, 2007 (9 of 9)
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trouble75 said:
Apologies, but I am still confused!
Maybe if I try explaining further...
I have the regular stereo output of the player, hooked up to the CD input of the amp.
If I choose to play the hi-res stereo mix of an SACD, with CD selected on my amp, will I hear anything? What will I hear?
IF you select SACD as default on your player..either surround or stereo..Then the player will look for THAT first...So you will get Stereo sacd output if you select that as priority on your Cambridger player..Assuming you put in an sacd disc?...
|As regards what happens if you select Surround as you default on the player ? YOU WILL NOT GET THE STEREO HI REZ because their is only one lazer looking at the disc.It cannot be in two places at once..If you get output on those two leads it is NOT your Stereo hirez layer...It should be zero output...BUT read the notes with your player...as stated some players MAY downmix but it will be a poor system that does this.As Polly says suck it and see...
Whatever happens this output on your existing stereo analogue leads..even if it is into an input NAMED Cd for identification on your Panny.
If you select stereo on your Panny when you are playing a surround disc. .THIS IS Definitley a downmix or just the FL and FR ?. ..read the instructions that came with the panny.It is different on each multichannel amplifier..
Please let us know how you get on/
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