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I love H Mancini compositions like P. Panther, Bonzi Pipeline, etc. and not knowing how to actually classify it, I'm calling it Orchestrated Jazz. I like the crispness/clarity of his recordings, the interplay and some of the more complex arrangements. I also find that I enjoy the Mancini style Big Band to small Orchestra sounds and it's resulting variety.
Can any of you point me to other composers that would be similar?
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Post by seth April 5, 2006 (2 of 13)
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carvendive said:
I love H Mancini compositions like P. Panther, Bonzi Pipeline, etc. and not knowing how to actually classify it, I'm calling it Orchestrated Jazz. I like the crispness/clarity of his recordings, the interplay and some of the more complex arrangements. I also find that I enjoy the Mancini style Big Band to small Orchestra sounds and it's resulting variety.
Can any of you point me to other composers that would be similar?
Most obviously there is Gershwin. My favorite compilation is with Erich Kunzel/Cincinnati Pops Orchestra on Telarc. His Cuban Overture, though, is a bit of a let down (and it's my favorite Gershwin composition). The Latin percussion instruments are hardly audible. Slatkin/St. Louis on VOX achieve the best balance between the Latin percussion and orchestra I've heard. Arthur Fiedler's Living Stereo SACD is a classic.
Some other stuff to check out:
Ibert: Concerto da camera, for alto saxophone and orchestra
Ellington: "The River"
Antheil: A Jazz Symphony
Villa-Lobos: Fantasia, for saxophone and orchestra
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Post by Peter April 5, 2006 (3 of 13)
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seth said:
Most obviously there is Gershwin. My favorite compilation is with Erich Kunzel/Cincinnati Pops Orchestra on Telarc. His Cuban Overture, though, is a bit of a let down (and it's my favorite Gershwin composition). The Latin percussion instruments are hardly audible. Slatkin/St. Louis on VOX achieve the best balance between the Latin percussion and orchestra I've heard. Arthur Fiedler's Living Stereo SACD is a classic.
Some other stuff to check out:
Ibert: Concerto da camera, for alto saxophone and orchestra
Ellington: "The River"
Antheil: A Jazz Symphony
Villa-Lobos: Fantasia, for saxophone and orchestra
Martinu - Le Jazz. available on Supraphon
PS It isn't jazz, but Gottschalk's Night in the Tropics is a good romp. (Sorry, neither is on SACD.)
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Post by DSD April 5, 2006 (4 of 13)
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Peter said:
Martinu - Le Jazz. available on Supraphon
PS It isn't jazz, but Gottschalk's Night in the Tropics is a good romp. (Sorry, neither is on SACD.)
If you hurry you can still get the SACD of Gottschalk's Night in the Tropics, Grand Tarentelle / Gould: Latin Amercian Symphonette. But hurry it's offically out of print.
It is my favorite SACD, it's No. 1 of my top 10 best SACDs.
http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=VANSA500
Gottschalk: A Night in the Tropics etc - Utah/Abravanel
Here are some other Jazz inspired recordings:
BERSTEIN: Prelude, Fugue and Riffs
ELLINGTON: Harlem Suite
STRAVINSKY: Ragtime
MILHAULD: La Creation du Monde
CHESKY: Concerto for Flute and Orchestra; Concerto for Violin and Orchestra and The Girl from
Guatemala
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Post by seth April 5, 2006 (5 of 13)
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DSD said:
STRAVINSKY: Ragtime
With the exception of Stravinsky's Tango and Scherzo a la russe (chamber orchestra version), I find his jazz synthesis to be fairly contrived, and I say this as a Stravinsky fan. It's more Stravinsky pretending not to be Stravinsky than anything else. Someone like Weill's sound has a much more idiomatic jazz flavor.
I'll also add to the list Martinu's "Le Revue de Cuisine."
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Post by DSD April 6, 2006 (6 of 13)
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seth said:
With the exception of Stravinsky's Tango and Scherzo a la russe (chamber orchestra version), I find his jazz synthesis to be fairly contrived, and I say this as a Stravinsky fan. It's more Stravinsky pretending not to be Stravinsky than anything else. Someone like Weill's sound has a much more idiomatic jazz flavor.
I'll also add to the list Martinu's "Le Revue de Cuisine."
I choose Stravinsky’s Ragtime based on the wildly jazzy performance by Bernard Herrmann on London Phase 4 LP. He may have taken liberties as he does with Weill’s Three Penny Opera Suite on the same LP.
I didn't include Weill's Three Penny Opera or Shostakovich's Jazz Suites as much as I love both because they are more like parlor music than real jazz. Speaking of Shostakovich his Concerto for Piano, Trumpet and Strings is pretty jazzy.
I agree with "Le Revue de Cuisine" though I have only heard the performance on with Chicago Pro Music on Reference Recordings "Pure Analog" LP. Also Tango and Scherzo a la russe (I only have the orchestral versions).
Another one just popped into my head and it may be the best suggestion of all Copland: Concerto for Clarinet written for Benny Goodman.
Happy listening,
Teresa
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Post by DSD April 6, 2006 (7 of 13)
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And here is yet another Shchedrian: Piano Concerto No. 2 in the final movement Contrasts there is a jazz combo with the drummer playing brushes. It's coupled with Shostakovich's Two Piano Concertos - Hyperion SACDA 67425
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Post by Edvin April 6, 2006 (8 of 13)
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DSD said:
I didn't include Weill's Three Penny Opera or Stravinsky's Jazz Suites as much as I love both because they are more like parlor music than real jazz.
You mean Shostakovich..? There are no Jazz suites from good old Igor.
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Post by DSD April 6, 2006 (9 of 13)
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Edvin said:
You mean Shostakovich..? There are no Jazz suites from good old Igor.
Yes, Shostakovich! Edwin thanks a bunch! I corrected my post. Now readers will know what I meant when I typed "speaking of Shostakovich".
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Post by Peter April 6, 2006 (10 of 13)
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DSD said:
If you hurry you can still get the SACD of Gottschalk's Night in the Tropics, Grand Tarentelle / Gould: Latin Amercian Symphonette. But hurry it's offically out of print.
It is my favorite SACD, it's No. 1 of my top 10 best SACDs.
http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=VANSA500
Gottschalk: A Night in the Tropics etc - Utah/Abravanel
Here are some other Jazz inspired recordings:
BERSTEIN: Prelude, Fugue and Riffs
ELLINGTON: Harlem Suite
STRAVINSKY: Ragtime
MILHAULD: La Creation du Monde
CHESKY: Concerto for Flute and Orchestra; Concerto for Violin and Orchestra and The Girl from
Guatemala
Mea culpa; I thought it had disappeared. Pity about Everest etc recordings languishing in the vaults. (Lyrita's vaults contain quite a few recordings which have never seen the light of day in any format, except a sampler from Quad.)
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