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The title of this set or its contents is a little odd. Since its release (and in various incarnations since), DG have proclaimed that the Alpensinfonie was a digital recording, hence the inclusion in their Karajan Gold series back in the 1990s. Yet here it is in the "complete" "analogue" recordings. I say "complete" because the similarly sourced "Die Frau ohne Schatten" to "Der Rosenkavalier" is omitted.
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Polly Nomial said:
The title of this set or its contents is a little odd. Since its release (and in various incarnations since), DG have proclaimed that the Alpensinfonie was a digital recording, hence the inclusion in their Karajan Gold series back in the 1990s. Yet here it is in the "complete" "analogue" recordings. I say "complete" because the similarly sourced "Die Frau ohne Schatten" to "Der Rosenkavalier" is omitted.
He did do a recording of Eine Alpensinfoine for DG in 1972 I believe.
Nope, I was wrong, it was Also Sprach I think.
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I believe the 1970's Also Sprach is the one included here. Gorgeous it is too...
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Post by Claude April 26, 2014 (5 of 23)
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It's obviously the digital recording. Compare the tracklist of the new CD/BD set with the 1993 "Karajan Gold" CD:
http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/cat/4792686
http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/cat/4390172
The BD page also states "ADD/DDD".
A bit silly given the title of the collection, and a 16/44 recording will hardly benefit from 24/96 sound, but it's still a great release, if the transfers are good.
As the same recordings will be released on SHM-SACD in Japan, I wonder if these use the same transfer or if they are seperate reissue projects (for example the old 24/96 transfers for the BD, new DSD transfers for the SACDs). The BD box is much cheaper.
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Post by ramesh April 26, 2014 (6 of 23)
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Der Rosenkavalier with Karajan was only released by DG as an early 1980s digital recording. The cast list here- Janowitz, Jurinac, Della Casa seems like an all star early-mid 1960s list, quite different to K's Schwarzkopf-led 1956 studio recording for EMI which had the Philharmonia. I suspect this may be a concert performance either from Vienna or the Salzburg Festival.
The duplicate tone poems presumably are from the 1959-60 Decca VPO recordings.
The Concertgebouw 'Don Juan' is a real curiosity I didn't know about previously.
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Post by pacwin April 26, 2014 (7 of 23)
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ramesh said:
Der Rosenkavalier with Karajan was only released by DG as an early 1980s digital recording. The cast list here- Janowitz, Jurinac, Della Casa seems like an all star early-mid 1960s list, quite different to K's Schwarzkopf-led 1956 studio recording for EMI which had the Philharmonia. I suspect this may be a concert performance either from Vienna or the Salzburg Festival.
The duplicate tone poems presumably are from the 1959-60 Decca VPO recordings.
The Concertgebouw 'Don Juan' is a real curiosity I didn't know about previously.
Only Discs 1-6, the DGG recordings, are on the blu ray audio evidently
Der Rosenkavalier is a 1960 mono recording, Salzburg Festival, the Don Juan others are saying, is on 466 388-2 (Legends) (have a search on http://cdon.eu where they give other serial numbers)
http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/cat/4663882
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Post by Chris May 3, 2014 (8 of 23)
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If my memory serves me right Karajan's first digital release Mozart's Die Zauberflöte was also recorded analogue parallel to the digital. And Karajan himself decided that the pcm recording was to be released,not the analogue one.
The good thing was that for once there is at least one DGG recording without typical DGG super multimiking from the Philharmonie.
Luckily it was not yet possible to ruin things with many mics with the digital system used by DGG in those days.
The bad thing was that the early digital sound was rather steely and low res.
But balancing was actually much better and a whole lot more realistic than anything Karajan had had from DGG for many years.
For Karajan and the Berliners naturally and realistically balanced one has to go back to the early sixties on DGG or late fifties to early sixties from EMI and then Decca and some of Wolfgang Gülich's,seventies recordings for EMI.
I wonder if DGG will ever release the analogue version they have of the Magic Flute.
What if they did the same for the equally steely early digital Alpensinfonie,ie had an analogue tape running parallel to the digital?
There is actually a slim chance the Alpensinfonie could be analogue if that was the case.
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The text of this post has been deleted by the moderator. Reason:
Vendor links - please don't do it.
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Post by ramesh May 28, 2014 (10 of 23)
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I understand DGG are continuing this CD + bluray audio format with :
1. Carlos Kleiber 3CD & BRA of Beethoven 5 & 7, Schubert 3 & 8, Brahms 4
2. 5CD + BRA of Beethoven symphonies, Karajan 1960s cycle- unlike the SACD box set no rehearsal sequence of the Beethoven 9
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