Thread: Why are so many non SACD recordings posted as SACD's on this site?

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Post by posbwp55 March 13, 2014 (21 of 37)
I see the SACD's you are talking about now. That doesn't change the fact that the wrong CD's are posted on this site.

Bart

Post by zeus March 13, 2014 (22 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

That doesn't change the fact that the wrong CD's are posted on this site.

You'll figure it out eventually ... or maybe not.

Post by EmNat March 13, 2014 (23 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

I see the SACD's you are talking about now. That doesn't change the fact that the wrong CD's are posted on this site.

Bart

Can you give another example? You have already been proved wrong on the first one!

Post by posbwp55 March 14, 2014 (24 of 37)
Zeus,

Are you the moderator? So as the moderator you feel compelled to indulge in insult which you condemn in others? If you look at the photos of the Hahn SACD's, they are WRONG. It would have been obvious that they are wrong had the correct SACD's been posted. The Sony SACD series with the distinctive sleeve and difference in the photo (brown border on two sides) would have eliminated any mistake in purchasing. Thanks Zeus.

Post by Windsurfer March 14, 2014 (25 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

Zeus,

Are you the moderator? So as the moderator you feel compelled to indulge in insult which you condemn in others? If you look at the photos of the Hahn SACD's, they are WRONG. It would have been obvious that they are wrong had the correct SACD's been posted. The Sony SACD series with the distinctive sleeve and difference in the photo (brown border on two sides) would have eliminated any mistake in purchasing. Thanks Zeus.

Boy are you barking up the wrong tree !

Where do you think the photos came from? From Sony I would bet! BTW for the Brahms (and the first thing I did on receipt of the disc was toss the nuisance - in this case clear plastic sleeve - which you can see on the photo). The number listed (SS 89469) is exactly as is on my disc. Unfortunately although I had it in my hands yesterday, I have misplaced the Shostakovich/Mendelssohn but I am certain that the photo on this site properly represents the disc and case I had in my hand yesterday. As someone mentioned in a previous post, these are clearly labled with the sacd emblem and stereo over multi-ch in a box where stereo is in white on a blue background and multi-ch is in a blue font on a white background.

You strike me from your discourse here as a cranky old guy. Sorry you somehow think something is wrong with the site. But I never felt misled by anything here.

I have 29 Sony SACDs you can view them all together if you click on "users" at the bottom of the page and then on "W" and scroll to windsurfer. The click on library - or maybe you can get there directly by clicking on my moniker associted with this post. I think examining the photos of all 29 will be enlightening for you.

Post by zeus March 14, 2014 (26 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

Are you the moderator? So as the moderator you feel compelled to indulge in insult which you condemn in others? If you look at the photos of the Hahn SACD's, they are WRONG. It would have been obvious that they are wrong had the correct SACD's been posted. The Sony SACD series with the distinctive sleeve and difference in the photo (brown border on two sides) would have eliminated any mistake in purchasing.

There's nothing I can do until you provide more information, like a picture of the back cover of the disc(s) in your possession ... as I requested. This will have the serial number, logos and barcode. Just repeating the same accusations is not going to resolve this.

Post by Ubertrout March 14, 2014 (27 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

Zeus,

Are you the moderator? So as the moderator you feel compelled to indulge in insult which you condemn in others? If you look at the photos of the Hahn SACD's, they are WRONG. It would have been obvious that they are wrong had the correct SACD's been posted. The Sony SACD series with the distinctive sleeve and difference in the photo (brown border on two sides) would have eliminated any mistake in purchasing. Thanks Zeus.

The Sony series that both discs are in have a plastic sleeve with the goldish SACD MCH/Stereo overlay. But the actual album art is the same for both the SACD and regular CD versions of both Hilary Hahn albums on Sony. The only difference in the printed materials is in the tray insert card which goes at the bottom of the case. Further, I don't think that the Japanese version of this disc even has the plastic slipcase.

More generally, I don't understand why you're being so tenacious when you're clearly in the wrong. The discs you refer to are available in SACD, and the site mods are rather vigilant about the title database - and the folks on this forum are sure to point out if there's a mistake. Further, the links on the page for the disc in question go to the correct product pages, and if you'd used them you'd have the correct version of the disc. The fact that the discs look similar and have similar serial numbers is an issue, but it's the fault of Sony, not this site.

You're new here, and you're acting like this site owes you something. You asked a first question, and people tried to respond honestly. Instead of realizing that there were rare SACD versions of the disc you had and recognizing this, you doubled down and insisted it was because the wrong product is shown on the disc's information page. That too is incorrect.

You thought you were calling the site mods on their mistake, but in reality it was your mistake. There's no shame in that, but there is shame in insisting on your correctness long after it has been disproved.

Post by Joseph Ponessa March 17, 2014 (28 of 37)
This thread deep-sixed somewhere along the way. The original poster has my sympathy for not getting the product he wanted. I hope he didn't get stuck the way I did today, importing a three-figure SACD disc from Japan only to find that what I had in my hands was a three-figure CD. Since the title is extremely rare and most desirable, I now must order another three-figure copy from a different importer--both of them third-party merchants on a well-known site. This is part of the adventure of collecting, isn't it? The willingness to get taken once in a while.

Post by lennyw March 17, 2014 (29 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

I have the APL Master SACD player ($35,000). It defaults to the SACD layer. There is no SACD layer on this CD.

Bart

I have often found that cheaper disc players tend to be less fussy about discs...

Post by canonical March 18, 2014 (30 of 37)
Joseph Ponessa said:

importing a three-figure SACD disc from Japan only to find that what I had in my hands was a three-figure CD. Since the title is extremely rare and most desirable, I now must order another three-figure copy from a different importer--both of them third-party merchants on a well-known site. This is part of the adventure of collecting, isn't it? The willingness to get taken once in a while.

One should never get taken. I hope you returned it. If it was Amazon, you should have no problem, even with third party sellers, in undoing what must be undone.

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