Thread: Dreams and Prayers: DSD128 Kickstarter and (hopefully!) Hybrid-SACD Album by A Far Cry

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Post by jessesbakery October 30, 2013 (1 of 14)
Dear all,

I have followed SACD.net for years, but as yet haven't posted to these delightful forums. I have personally worked as producer or engineer on many of your albums.

Here now, in all humility, I have decided not only to post to the forum, but to ANNOUNCE A NEW DSD128 RECORDING and kickstarter campaign. In true 21st century form, we are raising money for the post-production and SA-CD release through http://www.afarcry.org/kickstarter. If we raise $25,000, the album will be released on CD and in DSD 2.0 and binaural download. If we sufficiently exceed our goal, we will release a Hybrid-SACD with 5.0 surround as well! We are in our FINAL days!

Please enjoy a sample of Beethoven's beautiful Heiliger Dankgesang, op. 132 performed in one raw session take by A Far Cry (in DSD128-5.6Mhz, DSD64-2.8MHz, 192kHz-24bit and 96kHz-24bit):
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lhnzs9qcdcynujl/6uguMdF_rr

To pre-order and participate in the Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/afarcrymusic/kickstart-dreams-and-prayers-a-far-crys-new-album

RECORDING SPECIFICATIONS:
Native resolution: DSD128-5.6MHz
5.0 Surround, Stereo and Binaural

Engineering: Soundmirror, Inc. (Jesse Brayman)
Producer: Jesse Lewis

Dreams and Prayers
A Far Cry with David Krakauer
Recorded at Sacred Heart Church in Fall River, MA October 21-23, 2013

Dreams and Prayers explores music as a passageway between man and the divine, as experienced through religious mysticism. The album, which was born last year as a vividly moving and spectacularly-reviewed live concert, is comprised of music spanning nearly 1000 years from deeply rich and varied spiritual traditions.

Hildegard von Bingen: The Origin of Fire
Mehmet Ali Sanlikol: Vecd
Osvaldo Golijov: The Dreams and Prayers of Isaac the Blind
Ludwig van Beethoven: Heiliger Dankgesang, op. 132

A Far Cry has teamed up with the amazing David Krakauer to perform and record the world premiere of Osvaldo Golijov's The Dreams and Prayers of Issac the Blind in its new version for clarinet and string orchestra. We have re-imagined a work of Hildegard von Bingen, written for monophonic voice, here played by violins in unison. Beethoven's Song of Thanksgiving from his string quartet op. 132 is his cry of gratitude to the heavens after being healed from illness, and a new commission from Turkish composer Mehmet Sanlikol drawn from the Sufi tradition completes the program.

Thank you SA-CD.net for the incredible enthusiasm you have inspired around DSD and Super-Audio CD! Let's keep it up!

Jesse

Post by Chris October 31, 2013 (2 of 14)
Just back in Singapore after nearly two weeks in the rainforests of Sabah I downloaded the sample and judging by the 3 minutes dff binaural sample download from Beethoven's string Quartet it sounds promising indeed.
And in general Osvaldo Golijov's music some of which I heard under his direction live at the Chamber Music Festival in Trondheim a couple of years ago is also very good imho.
Incredibly wide open very realistic sound on the binaural dff track via HD 800 headphones. If all recordings sounded this big open and realistic via headphones I would be in sonic and musical heaven more often.

Post by jessesbakery November 1, 2013 (3 of 14)
Amazing what two microphones can do! Stereo is a mix, binaural is discrete. Which dff format are you listening in? Osvaldo Golijov is a gift to music in this time - so moving, his music. You are so lucky to have seen him perform his music live! Thanks for jumping aboard, and welcome back; SO glad to have you!

All the best,
Jesse

Post by tailspn November 3, 2013 (4 of 14)
As this thread is about to fall off the first page of this forum, I have to ask if anyone sees a certain hypocrisy going on here with sa-cd.net Forum members?

On October 18, “well meaning” citizen pacwin started a thread decrying a statement made by Jared Sacks during a press conference announcing a new DSD only download site, about the long term economics for his label producing solely SA-CD’s. That garnered fifteen pages of threats, and “the sky is falling” comments, as well as the ever self serving Robert von Bahr plugging his interests. In all, a total of 147 posts, and 4,074 views.

With this thread, producer Jesse Lewis announced the potential availability of an SA-CD, and an ongoing funding program to raise money for post production beyond a CD release. Bear in mind, this is a recording from a world class chamber orchestra, A Far Cry, the recording already exists, and a CD will be released. Jesse’s announcement was a call to see if there’s sufficient interest in higher resolution products of the same production. He announced here due to the focused interest in all things SA-CD, and the highest quality of music reproduction.

For his effort, that got him ONE intelligent reply, and 304 views.

Does this tell you anything?

Post by bmoura November 3, 2013 (5 of 14)
tailspn said:

With this thread, producer Jesse Lewis announced the potential availability of an SA-CD, and an ongoing funding program to raise money for post production beyond a CD release. Bear in mind, this is a recording from a world class chamber orchestra, A Far Cry, the recording already exists, and a CD will be released. Jesse’s announcement was a call to see if there’s sufficient interest in higher resolution products of the same production. He announced here due to the focused interest in all things SA-CD, and the highest quality of music reproduction.

I think this Kickstarter campaign is quite interesting. It offers music fans a chance to take a quality recording and bring it to SACD and High Resolution download if the demand - and contributions - are there.

I wonder if this could be the start of similar campaigns for other recordings to come to Hi Resolution Audio. If so, the beginning of an excellent trend !

Post by audioholik November 3, 2013 (6 of 14)
tailspn said:

For his effort, that got him ONE intelligent reply, and 304 views.

Does this tell you anything?

Knowing that they are on the best way to get their project funded, it tells me two things: First, people still want SACDs, and second, they want them so bad that they are willing to pay not only for the SACDs themselves but the recording equipment and studio time as well!

BTW, some time ago I suggested that Polyhymnia should start a campaign to raise money for the Grimm Audio converter. Yes, I would be willing to send them my hard earned money if they can't afford it, so that we can all benefit from better sounding Polyhymnia SACDs.

Post by bmoura November 3, 2013 (7 of 14)
And they've reached the target. Over $25,000 as of this morning !

Post by rammiepie November 3, 2013 (8 of 14)
A reply to tailspn's Post #4 (above):

IMO, the usually spot on pacwin opened up a Pandora's box when he jumped the gun by stating that Channel no longer wanted to release SACDs in deference to DSD downloads. It may have been wishful thinking on Jared's part but it was not imminent.

Stvnharr wants to bankroll a Grimm Audio converter for use by Pentatone but is the Grimm what they really want? It's akin to trying to convince Analogue Productions that do we really need a repeat of all the Living Stereo titles instead of releasing ALL NEW unreleased LS SACD titles....which seems to be the consensus of this forum.

Having posted on this forum for several years, I think there has always been an underlying antagonism when things don't always go our way. We have seen a number of SACD producing labels come and go and we have also witnessed SONY's near abandonment of the format. Ironic that SONY seeks to replace the nascent blu ray format with a 4kx2k format but has not done the same for SACD/DSD recording....but no one is criticizing them for throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Speaking for myself, the ramblings accompanying the pacwin Channel thread (including my own) really made a mountain out of a molehill, especially since it was stated several times and early on in the thread that Channel had NO intention of ceasing SACD production.

Am elated that A Far Cry reached it's $25k goal and will be looking forward to the upcoming hybrid mch SACD but that brings up another point. As a lover of ALL genres of music, would I bankroll every album I would love to see released on SACD.

NO way......sorry.

Post by pacwin November 3, 2013 (9 of 14)
rammiepie said:

A reply to tailspn's Post #4 (above):

IMO, the usually spot on pacwin opened up a Pandora's box when he jumped the gun by stating that Channel no longer wanted to release SACDs in deference to DSD downloads. It may have been wishful thinking on Jared's part but it was not imminent.

I supported the Kickstarter project but only reluctantly (I love Golijov's music enough to transcend that). Ironically I only do computer audio now but I detest downloads unless TINA (there is no alternative) is at play. AS others have repeated ad nauseum, there is nothing to collect, admire/value, resell or pass on with downloads. It works maybe for those who need instant gratification and who must have the lastest thing first.

What I would have preferred Jesse Lewis's project to do would be to open up one of his CD cases cover art and booklet, remove the 16 bit old school Redbook CD, bin it or recycle into another case, head on over to his/her audio workstation and burn the DSD128 files to a DVD-ROM (no fancy inking signage required for boutique projects) stick that in place of the CD disc and send me that for about the price of the 45$ Kickstarter contribution. But no one bar a few (WaOn records, Etendue) are offering this service, Jared included.

Post by rammiepie November 3, 2013 (10 of 14)
pacwin said:

I supported the Kickstarter project but only reluctantly (I love Golijov's music enough to transcend that). Ironically I only do computer audio now but I detest downloads unless TINA (there is no alternative) is at play. AS others have repeated ad nauseum, there is nothing to collect, admire/value, resell or pass on with downloads. It works maybe for those who need instant gratification and who must have the lastest thing first.

What I would have preferred Jesse Lewis's project to do would be to open up one of his CD cases cover art and booklet, remove the 16 bit old school Redbook CD, bin it or recycle into another case, head on over to his/her audio workstation and burn the DSD128 files to a DVD-ROM (no fancy inking signage required for boutique projects) stick that in place of the CD disc and send me that for about the price of the 45$ Kickstarter contribution. But no one bar a few (WaOn records, Etendue) are offering this service, Jared included.

You're probably right, pacwin////besides burning a DV~R IS preferable to STAMPING. Amazon on occasion will burn a CD~R which has been authorized by the releasing company and IMO, they sound superb (for a CD~R).

Without hijacking this thread and since you're the go to guru for all things digital....when, oh when, will the Universal BD~As reach US shores.....and as an insider, any word on an impending Warners/EMI BD~A launch or is that wishful thinking?

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