Thread: Is Matching Surrounds or Center w/ Mains More Important for Classical? Or are Both Equally Important?

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Post by ClassicalDJ May 14, 2013 (1 of 79)
Now that I have moved into a house with a dedicated music room (19ft x 13ft x 8ft), I am doing some planning for future upgrades to my current setup (see my user HiFi info).

The center seems to play the more critical role than the surrounds (from a volume perspective anyway) for most multichannel classical listening. From an aesthetic point of view, matching surrounds and fronts (towers in each corner) with a horizontal center seems more practical than, say, three towers across the front with bookshelf/stand surrounds.

Five equidistant floorstanding speakers could work for my room, although the surrounds would be backed into corners at about the 100 degree position (the Sony graphic recommends 110-120 degrees, /faq#playback21), and the notion of using it for home theater might become awkward (I don't care a lot about it, but I'd rather not compromise it completely).

Thanks in advance for helping with my brainstorming on this :-)

David W.

Post by sylvian May 14, 2013 (2 of 79)
In my setup I use 4.0 floor standing equal ML speakers and for center I am using ML- Stage with -4dB handycap. I do not use SW since I always consider it a spoiler either for music or films. 5.0 is the right way to listen to SA-CD.

Post by Iain May 14, 2013 (3 of 79)
ClassicalDJ said:

Now that I have moved into a house with a dedicated music room (19ft x 13ft x 8ft), I am doing some planning for future upgrades to my current setup (see my user HiFi info).

The center seems to play the more critical role than the surrounds (from a volume perspective anyway) for most multichannel classical listening. From an aesthetic point of view, matching surrounds and fronts (towers in each corner) with a horizontal center seems more practical than, say, three towers across the front with bookshelf/stand surrounds.

Five equidistant floorstanding speakers could work for my room, although the surrounds would be backed into corners at about the 100 degree position (the Sony graphic recommends 110-120 degrees, /faq#playback21), and the notion of using it for home theater might become awkward (I don't care a lot about it, but I'd rather not compromise it completely).

Thanks in advance for helping with my brainstorming on this :-)

David W.

Matching speakers all round are imperative!

I currently have a 4.1 system (saving for matching centre as funds permit). All are stand-mount bookshelf speakers from same family as I don't like the in-your-face immediacy of floor standing speakers (been there, done that). Quality sub-woofer crossed over at 110 hz, ties them all together for LFE content. Others in this thread seem to have an outmoded view of sub-woofers, but I've found a few that are quite musical and add consistent quality to system. That's been an emerging trend over the past 4-5 years.

Each speaker is positioned at 90 degrees from front and rear walls; AVR distance setting is used to compensate to allow for proper imaging.

Post by Fugue May 14, 2013 (4 of 79)
I could never sell my wife on 5 ML Theos speaker! I do have a nice ML center, the Motif, and clear/neutral Definitive Technology surrounds. Can anyone imagine 5 ML CLX or Soundlab speakers? Theoretically, I'm sure it would sound better, but reality affects a few of us. Plus, it seems that after a certain level, massive/expensive surrounds would be overkill.

Post by diw May 14, 2013 (5 of 79)
I used to be very rigid about the need for 3 of the same speakers in the front. In my current setup, I went to Revel Salon 2 for right and left, and a Revel Voice for the Center. Sounds really good and I don't regret my choice. Some here would disapprove.

Post by tailspn May 14, 2013 (6 of 79)
Fugue said:

Can anyone imagine 5 ML CLX or Soundlab speakers?

Sure.

Post by Kveld-Úlfr May 15, 2013 (7 of 79)
tailspn said:

Sure.

U-1PX, 50-600 watts. How can you confortably listen to such an amount of power at such close range ?

Post by hiredfox May 15, 2013 (8 of 79)
tailspn said:

Sure.

Oh my! Is that your listening room, Tom? I guess you are winched down from a helicopter into your seat, Tom Cruise fashion...

;-)

Post by Chris May 15, 2013 (9 of 79)
tailspn said:

Sure.

Dear tailspn,
you have really taken things to the extreme.Judging from the pic posted, you certainly have every reason I can think of, to actually listen to music with your eyes closed.
Eyes firmly shut are strongly recommended.
Your GIANT "headphones" are WAY bigger than mine.But apart from the groundshaking bass ,the response we hear is most probably,much the same from good recordings.The difference being that if I open my eyes I see a wonderful lakeview over Sweden's second largest lake, from my living room.
It seems you are listening to music in an anechoic chamber of sorts?
Do you enter it blindfolded?
No offence, but it looks a bit like a torture chamber to me.
Jared's monitoring room in Budapest seems like a Five Star Hotel Suite in comparison to yours.

Post by SteelyTom May 15, 2013 (10 of 79)
tailspn said:

Sure.

Dear God.

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