Thread: Universal Music 25 new "Blu-Ray Audio" format titles for May

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Post by craigv April 28, 2013 (1 of 925)
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Post by rammiepie April 28, 2013 (2 of 925)
Except for one new SHM~SACD listing from Universal/Japan, it seems that Universal is shifting its focus towards BD~A releases.

Like Naxos, they have tried (and failed) with DVD~A, have grown 'disenchanted' with SACD and tend to shift their focus on BD~A with its magnum capacity, plethora of pressing plants and the philosophy of why not try the relatively 'new kid on the block.'

Only time will tell but they have to try harder and release newer music, multichannel titles and make use of BD~A's enormous storage capacity by putting more than one album per disc.

As you stated, if one can fit the entire Solti Ring on one disc with admirable results......then it's time to explore BD~A's major strength.............. putting more than 42 minutes (for instance) of audio on a single disc.......perhaps releasing their recent Decca/Mercury/DGG box sets on BD~A with 96/24 resolution would be a good start!

And, BTW, Warners is also going to launch their own BD~A titles but, so far, no word on what they are slated to release.

Post by sylvian April 29, 2013 (3 of 925)
rammiepie said:


Only time will tell but they have to try harder and release newer music, multichannel titles and make use of BD~A's enormous storage capacity by putting more than one album per disc.

Wishful thinking rammie: I would also welcome more albums on a single BD-A, but licensing and prevoius marketing policies have already shown us, that this is practically impossible. I would be very happy if this statement proves to be wrong.

Post by samayoeruorandajin April 29, 2013 (4 of 925)
Well, Teldec is putting the entire Bach ediiton, the one with Harnancourt on 1 USB stick. Of oourse that's RBCD qualtiy I'm sure. I would think USB sticks would be a better way to go than Blu-ray Discs or SACD, of all physical formats.

Post by hooperthom April 29, 2013 (5 of 925)
Is this all the "NEW" format is giving us. BOO HISS. Dead before it started. Blu-Ray Audio: PCM 2.0 24bit / 96 kHz 2.0 DTS Master Audio24bits / 96 kHz PCM 2.0 / Dolby TrueHD 24-bit / 96 kHz

Post by Euell Neverno April 29, 2013 (6 of 925)
As stated in a prior thread:

Like Betamax and VCR and like SACD and DVD-A, I would not expect both SACD and BD-A to survive as concurrent viable formats. The history of competing formats is that only one survives. Now some recording companies are attempting market penetration with BD-A. If the market moves to a viable BD-A, SACD will quickly disappear, just like DVD-A did.

Post by Claude April 29, 2013 (7 of 925)
SACD survives because of the attached CD layer. Classical labels can make single inventory releases with the SACD layer as a bonus.

BD-A will face some of the same acceptance problems as DVD-A (many audiophiles don't use a video player in their system), although it has the big advantage of the greater hardware base.

BTW, no need for a second thread on the same subject.

Post by Euell Neverno April 29, 2013 (8 of 925)
Claude said:

SACD survives because of the attached CD layer. Classical labels can make single inventory releases with the SACD layer as a bonus.

BD-A will face some of the same acceptance problems as DVD-A (many audiophiles don't use a video player in their system), although it has the big advantage of the greater hardware base.

BTW, no need for a second thread on the same subject.

Agree with your thoughts, but the former thread was terminated prematurely, and the issues raised by competing formats should be of interest to those who are invested in the SACD format. What is undeniable is that proponents of BD-A are now seeking to make inroads into the very limited market niche currently occupied by SACD. In the US anyway the installed base of BD players is quite large and it is likely, in my estimation, that a majority here use universal players. So, in this market there is a substantial possibility that BD-A could displace SACD. True, most purchasers of SACD's worldwide only use the RBCD layer, but that market can be served more efficiently with RBCD's. So, I think the BD-A challenge to SACD is far from a piffle.

Multichannel is what has kept the SACD format alive. The multichannel installed base is what could also propel BD-A and simultaneously doom SACD. The history of competing formats suggests that the market does not long accommodate competing formats.

Post by benvandyk April 29, 2013 (9 of 925)
Euell Neverno said:

Agree with your thoughts, but the former thread was terminated prematurely, and the issues raised by competing formats should be of interest to those who are invested in the SACD format. What is undeniable is that proponents of BD-A are now seeking to make inroads into the very limited market niche currently occupied by SACD. In the US anyway the installed base of BD players is quite large and it is likely, in my estimation, that a majority here use universal players. So, in this market there is a substantial possibility that BD-A could displace SACD. True, most purchasers of SACD's worldwide only use the RBCD layer, but that market can be served more efficiently with RBCD's. So, I think the BD-A challenge to SACD is far from a piffle.

Multichannel is what has kept the SACD format alive. The multichannel installed base is what could also propel BD-A and simultaneously doom SACD. The history of competing formats suggests that the market does not long accommodate competing formats.

from what Ive read the reason why different formats fail is because they dont go in it together. with cd dvd & bd I think they all did. sony has to be in too. that 4k stuff is new and 16 titles are to be release in the uk. there for the new tv and players but there down rez to fit on the bd. they have to make a new disc for 4k.if they ever do that then there should be more disc space for audio too.I think 2k works on bd discs? theres not much info out on what there doing.I think there sony titles

Post by Claude April 29, 2013 (10 of 925)
Euell Neverno said:

Agree with your thoughts, but the former thread was terminated prematurely

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Multichannel is what has kept the SACD format alive. The multichannel installed base is what could also propel BD-A and simultaneously doom SACD. The history of competing formats suggests that the market does not long accommodate competing formats.

Sorry, I hadn't seen that the other thread was closed.

One can only speculate over the role of multichannel sound in current SACD purchases. Do buyers of a single inventory classical hybrid SACD play the CD layer, the SACD stereo or the multichannel layer? We don't know. Most buyers are not members on this forum, some may even not know what SACD is.

Stereo SACD is a success on the audiophile market, as now almost all SACD/CD players are stereo only (multichannel SACD being limited to audio/video disc players) and audiophile labels keep releasing stereo-only SACDs.

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