Post by Tonti April 15, 2013 (1 of 33)
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Hello, friends. Excuse my English (I use an automatic translator) and if asked me have been discussed.
1. How in your opinion, how well the section "Titles" on this site range covers released SA-CD?
That is, is there any point in looking for information on the other SA-CD Western artists (for example, in the direction of Rock music), or substantially all of the released listed on this site in the section "Titles"?
2. I just recently became interested in this format, so it is interesting, what is the situation with the number of releases in it in recent years (since 2010, for example) - the number of releases are more or less stable, or increasing or decreasing?
Many thanks in advance!
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Tonti said:
1. How in your opinion, how well the section "Titles" on this site range covers released SA-CD?
That is, is there any point in looking for information on the other SA-CD Western artists (for example, in the direction of Rock music), or substantially all of the released listed on this site in the section "Titles"?
2. I just recently became interested in this format, so it is interesting, what is the situation with the number of releases in it in recent years (since 2010, for example) - the number of releases are more or less stable, or increasing or decreasing?
1 - Although there may be minor lacks, this site virtually covers every existing title, including titles to be released soon.
2 - Though a technical prowess, the SA-CD format is a commercial failure. A bit more than 8500 references have been released up to date, mostly classical. Rock & Pop SA-CDs do exist, but they are a minor genre. New Rock & Pop releases happen from time to time (the past year saw the release of Wish You Were Here, Close To The Edge, early Black Sabbath albums and an Elvis Prestley compilation) but some releases between 2001 and 2007 have gone out of print or are getting rare.
Do not hesitate to use the "search" option in order to explore the Rock & Pop titles represented by the SA-CD format.
You'll find interesting bands : Pink Floyd, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Yes, Elvis Prestley, Steely Dan, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Moody Blues, The Kinks, Can, Black Sabbath, Rainbow, Meat Loaf, Queen, Cream, Steevie Ray Vaughan, The Police... and many more.
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Post by Tonti April 15, 2013 (3 of 33)
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Kveld-Úlfr said:
1 - Although there may be minor lacks, this site virtually covers every existing title, including titles to be released soon.
2 - Though a technical prowess, the SA-CD format is a commercial failure. A bit more than 8500 references have been released up to date, mostly classical. Rock & Pop SA-CDs do exist, but they are a minor genre. New Rock & Pop releases happen from time to time (the past year saw the release of Wish You Were Here, Close To The Edge, early Black Sabbath albums and an Elvis Prestley compilation) but some releases between 2001 and 2007 have gone out of print.
"Rock & Pop SA-CDs do exist, but they are a minor genre."
Yes, I understand that, but I have in any case it is not a full transition to SA-CD, since my main collection on regular audio cd.
Simply, if a player supports SA-CD, why not collect the some classics of western rock in this format, for example.
Well, now clear to me that as a guide for releases enough of this site and a serious increase in the number of releases in this direction will not be, apparently.
Thanks for the detailed answers, desired information received :)
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Tonti said:
1. How in your opinion, how well the section "Titles" on this site range covers released SA-CD?
2. I just recently became interested in this format, so it is interesting, what is the situation with the number of releases in it in recent years (since 2010, for example) - the number of releases are more or less stable, or increasing or decreasing?
> 1. How in your opinion, how well the section "Titles" on this site range covers released SA-CD?
The site used to list everything. So, until about Jan 2012, it is essentially complete. Recently, it changed to placing the onus on others to do the listings (which is not that successful), and the site is no longer complete.
> 2. I just recently became interested in this format, so it is interesting, what is the situation with the number of releases in it in recent years (since 2010, for example) - the number of releases are more or less stable, or increasing or decreasing?
Various people have compiled listings by year:
/showthread.php?page=1
Today, I believe there are over 8500 SACDs available. My impression is that in the last year, the number of releases has been increasing, due to the larger number of issues/re-issues coming out of Japan, and the re-entry into the market of Universal, Warner, EMI ... basically all the majors are back.
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canonical said:
[...] basically all the majors are back.
... hoping this is not just enthusiasm, but fact and reality ! :-)
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Kveld-Úlfr said:
2 - Though a technical prowess, the SA-CD format is a commercial failure. A bit more than 8500 references have been released up to date, mostly classical.
That reminds me of the people who used to go around saying that Apple is a commercial failure, ... as they hammered away on their ancient ugly DOS boxes. And the statement seems about as accurate too.
SACD is an audiophile format ... it is obviously a specialised market. Quite the opposite to being a commercial failure, it appears to have largely dominated its market. Its original competition ... DVD-Audio ... is basically dead, Blu-Ray audio is a minor niche within a niche that does not appear to be going anywhere, and hi-rez downloads have failed to gain any substantive commercial market share other than as freebies. In my view, this is because the downloads market is substantially a singles market, not an album market.
There are now over 8500 SACD titles available, ... the demand is so high that titles that have sold out often command enormously high prices from new entrants to the format, .... most high-end audio companies no longer even make CD players, and have transitioned to SACD players instead ... and while the mainstream CD market first crashed (and may finally be stabilising), the SACD market seems to be showing every sign of growth, with SACD titles regularly (and disproportionately) appearing in the monthly Top of Sales charts at places like MDT and acousticsounds. And as icing on the cake, after leaving the format years ago, almost all the majors ... EMI, Universal (Deutsche Grammophon, Decca etc), Warner, etc ... have returned to the SACD market in the last year. Presumably, they didn't come back because it is a failure ... they came back because they want a share of the few growth areas enjoyed by an industry that is otherwise in decline.
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Post by Iain April 15, 2013 (7 of 33)
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canonical said:
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SACD is an audiophile format ..........
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Interesting phrase, but I believe you are in error if you believe that.
SA-CD is for anyone who cares of the quality of music in their possession.
"Audiophiles" mostly care of kit and nothing else. I don't believe they exist, because I've never physically met one. :)
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Iain said:
SA-CD is for anyone who cares of the quality of music in their possession.
A much nicer definition :) What I meant ... either way :)
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Post by AmonRa April 15, 2013 (9 of 33)
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canonical said:
SACD is an audiophile format ... it is obviously a specialised market.
And most (80% or so?) of SACDs are sold and listened to as CDs... They are hybrids and there is no cheaper CD available.
So much for the "audiophile format"...
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canonical said:
Recently, it changed to placing the onus on others to do the listings (which is not that successful), and the site is no longer complete.
I think most (if not all) extant recordings are listed, if not - let me know: a link to an Amazon site via email is great because I can get the barcode from them (a disc can't be listed without a barcode).
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