Thread: Sony BDP-S270 can playback SACD, sort of!

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Post by Allen December 31, 2012 (1 of 7)
In a google search "Sony BDP-S270", there are some discussion that claimed that Sony BDP-S270 can not play SACD at all (or one has to buy the more high end model such as BDP-S370 at the very least, and so on)

Not ture! (I do remember I heard from someone here that the latest Sony BD player would be able to playback sacd, though no mention of any specific model).

I got a Sony Bluray player (BDP-S270) quite a while back from a garage sale. Today, just out of curiosity, I put a SACD (Bernstein's Westside Story - no CD layer) into the player and found that bluray player can actually playback the title. As it plays, the video screen show "DSD Multi" for the multi-channel layer, and "DSD 2ch" for stereo layer.

I can use remote to see control the playback. So it is sort of working as a SA-CD player.

The features so far missing:

1) title of the track are all missing.
2) can not switch layers for hybrid sacd, it only use the best. For example, it playback only the dsd-multi layer from "Bernstein's Westside Story", and I have not yet found a way to play the dsd-2ch layer on that disc.
3) so far, the signal is routed to receiver using optical cable. I have not tried out the HDMI, not sure what to expect.
4) the playback is stereo only, even though the screen shows it is "dsd-multi" - it is due the fact that I am using optical cable?

Nevertheless, it is good news, kind of!

This is my question, from the audio setup, it looks HDMI audio only have 2 options: Auto/PCM. How would signal be packed in HDMI? converted from DSD to PCM first?

If I get the latest HDMI equiped receiver, for example, Sony STR-DA1800ES, would that enable the multi-channel playback? Is it possible?

Post by The Seventh Taylor January 1, 2013 (2 of 7)
Allen said:

This is my question, from the audio setup, it looks HDMI audio only have 2 options: Auto/PCM. How would signal be packed in HDMI? converted from DSD to PCM first?

Assuming the BDP-S270 shares a common platform with the other Sx70 players and from what I know about those I believe the S270 will provide PCM or DSD, depending on the settings and on the receiver's capabilities.

> If I get the latest HDMI equiped receiver, for example, Sony STR-DA1800ES, would that enable the multi-channel playback? Is it possible?

For sure you can get multi-channel SACD playback with this set-up, at least in PCM and likely even in DSD, which this AVR supports.

http://discover.store.sony.com/ES/pdfs/STR-DA1800ES_Specsheet.pdf

Post by Iain January 1, 2013 (3 of 7)
Allen said:

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I got a Sony Bluray player (BDP-S270) quite a while back from a garage sale. Today, just out of curiosity, I put a SACD (Bernstein's Westside Story - no CD layer) into the player and found that bluray player can actually playback the title. As it plays, the video screen show "DSD Multi" for the multi-channel layer, and "DSD 2ch" for stereo layer.

I can use remote to see control the playback. So it is sort of working as a SA-CD player.

The features so far missing:

1) title of the track are all missing.
2) can not switch layers for hybrid sacd, it only use the best. For example, it playback only the dsd-multi layer from "Bernstein's Westside Story", and I have not yet found a way to play the dsd-2ch layer on that disc.
3) so far, the signal is routed to receiver using optical cable. I have not tried out the HDMI, not sure what to expect.
4) the playback is stereo only, even though the screen shows it is "dsd-multi" - it is due the fact that I am using optical cable?

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1) This is my only complaint of Sony BDP; player front panel SA-CD track number is missing. However, it's consistent of all Sony BDP fron BDP-Sx70 to the current BDP-Sx90. When I first purchaced my S770 in 2010, I contacted Sony support(?) of this and their response was "use display device".

EDIT: I prefer to leave display device "OFF" for audio-only formats. Less is more on HDMI, IMO.

2) Change setup option to "DSD-Multi" if it's currently set to "DSD-2Ch"

3) Use HDMI

4) Yes.

Post by Allen January 5, 2013 (4 of 7)
Just got my STR-DA1800ES installed, well, the display shows that the BDP-S270 HDMI output is LPCM (176KHz); and yes, it is in wonderful multi-channel sound!

Post by Iain January 5, 2013 (5 of 7)
Allen said:

Just got my STR-DA1800ES installed, well, the display shows that the BDP-S270 HDMI output is LPCM (176KHz); and yes, it is in wonderful multi-channel sound!

Now all you need do is set the following:
1) DSD Output Mode - On
2) BD Audio Mix Setting - Off

... in Audio Settings menu, and enjoy.

Also, don't forget to update firmware. That's very important for Sx70 models.

Post by Allen January 5, 2013 (6 of 7)
Just updated BDP-S270 to latest firmware.

Well, there are still only 2 options under Audio->HDMI(auto|pcm), and there is no "DSD Output Mode - On".

I guess that is probably what this S270 is all capable of then.

Even so, I am already very satisfied.

Post by blakean September 11, 2014 (7 of 7)
Coming a bit late to this post, but I just got this model and can verify that it plays SACD-R. However, I'm having a problem.

The multichannel tracks are faint and crackling (to an unlistenable degree), whereas the 2-channel tracks play nice and clear.

Is this a problem with my receiver (an LG that has no problem playing surround sound stuff through the HDMI) or is it something fixable with the unit?

Has anyone discovered a way to change between the multichannel and the 2-CH?

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