Thread: Is this SACD already in the database?

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Post by folon December 16, 2012 (1 of 12)
Hi,

I just got my hands on a German promo only SACD from 2003:
"Hear Feel Believe - The Revolution of Sound".

Is this SACD already in the database?

No barcode, not even a reference number. It refers to a website http://www.sacd-revolution.de which is now dead.

It contains snippets from well known SACDs from back then...

More pictures here:

https://plus.google.com/photos/103102487092946599156/albums/5822517722094837425

Do you know it? I can take better pics if you need it.

Andreas

Post by rammiepie December 16, 2012 (2 of 12)
Rather strangely, all cuts are excerpts under 2 minutes each.

And it's also a promo NOT FOR SALE.

Who wants excerpts on an entire album?

A cheesy blip on the SACD radar..........

Post by Claude December 16, 2012 (3 of 12)
rammiepie said:

Rather strangely, all cuts are excerpts under 2 minutes each.

Which is the duration of the attention span of the average audio show visitor ;-)

"Hörproben" = listening samples

This looks like a demo disc given to hifi companies and stores. Not worth putting into the database, as it was never for sale.

Post by samayoeruorandajin December 16, 2012 (4 of 12)
Well, the Fischer/BPO sampler put out years ago was never for sale either but it's in the database.

Post by DSD December 16, 2012 (5 of 12)
Yes, but the works on Budapest Live - Ivan Fischer are all complete. This sampler "Hear Feel Believe" has one and a half minute snippets of 11 numbers, making the SACD less than 20 minutes long. Personally I see no value in that since there is plenty of room for the entire songs or movements.

Post by samayoeruorandajin December 16, 2012 (6 of 12)
DSD said:

Yes, but the works on Budapest Live - Ivan Fischer are all complete. This sampler "Hear Feel Believe" has one and a half minute snippets of 11 numbers, making the SACD less than 20 minutes long. Personally I see no value in that since there is plenty of room for the entire songs or movements.

Shouldn't make a difference at all. The Fischer disc was promotional and not for sale either. That's what should make the distinction.

Post by Polly Nomial December 16, 2012 (7 of 12)
samayoeruorandajin said:

Well, the Fischer/BPO sampler put out years ago was never for sale either but it's in the database.

Because it was added pre-barcode stipulations. If it were "released" today, it wouldn't make it...

Post by samayoeruorandajin December 16, 2012 (8 of 12)
Polly Nomial said:

Because it was added pre-barcode stipulations. If it were "released" today, it wouldn't make it...

Makes sense to me.

Post by hiredfox December 16, 2012 (9 of 12)
Polly Nomial said:

Because it was added pre-barcode stipulations. If it were "released" today, it wouldn't make it...

Actually I agree with Samay on this one. Commercial availability should not be the sole arbiter of inclusion on the data-base otherwise it is of limited historical relevance.

Post by The Seventh Taylor December 21, 2012 (10 of 12)
Polly Nomial said:

Because it was added pre-barcode stipulations. If it were "released" today, it wouldn't make it...

That's right. Zeus wasn't eager to add it but I provided all the details including the image, scaled to the right sizes and eventually he included it, though already then he was reluctant to spend time on non-commercial samplers.

It's catalog number (4487) is very high though. Should have been under 12 or so, like Dvorak: Symphony Nos. 8, 9 - Fischer and Dvorak: Slavonic Dances - Fischer, titles that it probably preceded.

Interesting disc BTW, this German promo. I've been involved with SACD for ages and never seen this one before. Would love to add it to my collection. Should probably program an eBay alert for it.

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