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Discussion: Fauré: Requiem - Short

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Post by hiredfox November 18, 2012 (1 of 13)
A very nice recording. Freed of the constraints of The Barbican, Classical Sounds show that they can do church acoustics as well as any of their more lauded peers. Lovely performances that will captivate most. The organ sound is rather special too.

Post by armenian November 19, 2012 (2 of 13)
For me any LSO Live that is recorded in a cathedral is a must have SACD starting with M8 and now this.
And speaking of LSO Live recorded in cathedral, can anyone confirm a rumor that I hear about plans for Berlioz Requiem?

Vahe

Post by hiredfox November 19, 2012 (3 of 13)
armenian said:

For me any LSO Live that is recorded in a cathedral is a must have SACD starting with M8 and now this.
And speaking of LSO Live recorded in cathedral, can anyone confirm a rumor that I hear about plans for Berlioz Requiem?

Vahe

What rumour is this?

It wouldn't be surprising as LSO have recorded most of the major works of Berlioz with this notable exception, on LSO Live. Unfortunately, with Sir Colin Davis ill and (one hopes only) temporarily out of action it may not be any time soon if at all whatever plans may be on paper. It is doubtful such repertory would suit Gergiev

Post by douglasadeacon January 9, 2013 (4 of 13)
Simply one of the best LSO LIVE issues - gorgeous sound and performances. More out of the Barbican please.

Post by yakman March 12, 2013 (5 of 13)
Two great works and one very fine recording. I enjoyed my purchase.
The violin tone in the partita was beautifully captured.
However 4mins into track 10 or the first track of requiem, the stereo layer is clipped, both CD and SACD layers.
Luckily, the multichannel is fine.
I wonder why this was not corrected in the post production stage, if the stereo layer was derived from the multi-track, this can be avoided since the multichannel is perfect. Even if they set up dedicated mics for stereo mix. This can be patched from the multi channel mics. Is this really hard to get this corrected in DSD?

Post by undertone March 12, 2013 (6 of 13)
yakman said:

However 4mins into track 10 or the first track of requiem, the stereo layer is clipped, both CD and SACD layers.

There are two forte passages with the full chorus and organ, just before and just after 04:00 of Track 10. To my ears, the stereo SACD layer doesn't distort -- it's just a loud peak. Engineers set their mic preamps to capture peak levels without distortion before recording the performance.

Post by yakman March 13, 2013 (7 of 13)
undertone said:

There are two forte passages with the full chorus and organ, just before and just after 04:00 of Track 10. To my ears, the stereo SACD layer doesn't distort -- it's just a loud peak. Engineers set their mic preamps to capture peak levels without distortion before recording the performance.

Yes, it's the part. Maybe we're hearing different batch pressing? I triple checked on three different systems. The peak sounds clipped.
Ye, that's the usually practice. And the multichannel wasn't clipped. That's why I found it should be correctable in the mixing stage.

Post by undertone March 13, 2013 (8 of 13)
yakman said:

Maybe we're hearing different batch pressing? I triple checked on three different systems. The peak sounds clipped.

It may be that: I'm not playing the music loud enough to hear the distortion; my player may be softening the effect; or my hearing may not be acute enough to perceive the peak as distortion. I would be surprised if LSO ordered more than one pressing run of the title.

Edit: yakman is correct. The peak at 03:56 on track 10 does distort momentarily. I had to listen with headphones connected straight into my player to hear it clearly. The downside of high resolution is that you can hear (with a little effort) every flaw. Still, it's an outstanding recording -- just not a perfect one.

Post by hiredfox March 14, 2013 (9 of 13)
undertone said:

The downside of high resolution is that you can hear (with a little effort) every flaw.

As indeed you can in the concert hall. It's life, nothing is perfect.

Post by undertone March 14, 2013 (10 of 13)
hiredfox said:

As indeed you can in the concert hall. It's life, nothing is perfect.

Agreed! Perfection isn't just impossible, to me, it's an undesirable goal. Whether in the concert hall or in my living room, I'm not actively listening for the inevitable small technical imperfections, so I probably won't hear them until they're pointed out. Musical performance isn't a purely technical accomplishment -- it's an act of communication. But if the recording process is noticeably deficient, that can be an obstacle to communicating the nuances of the performance, more for some listeners than for others.

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