Post by zoomin October 2, 2012 (1 of 9)
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I have the SACD329 version of this disc.
I only recently discovered that it had a multi-channel layer on it.
Nowhere on the disc or written material does it say anything about multi-channel and it was only after adjusting some settings on my player that I saw that layer available.
Weird thing is - the Oppo claims it's 5.0 channels, but I never hear anything out of the centre channel speaker.
Also 5.0 instead of 5.1 is a bit weird in itself.
Anyone else have any feedback on this disc?
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I've always advocated 5.0 as the LFE channel is unnecessary for music. If your main speakers cannot handle full bass, you probably have bass management anyway.
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Post by zoomin October 2, 2012 (3 of 9)
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5.0 only weird I guess because my other [8] multi-channel SACDs are all 5.1.
My Oppo BDP-95 does do bass management but this disc does not produce any signal to the sub or the centre.
I'm not too sure what's going on.
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zoomin said:
5.0 only weird I guess because my other [8] multi-channel SACDs are all 5.1.
My Oppo BDP-95 does do bass management but this disc does not produce any signal to the sub or the centre.
I'm not too sure what's going on.
The 5.0 is pretty common among the hundreds of classical SACDs.
If you set up bass management in the BDP-95 you should get sub output from the analog outs.
Check your settings.
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Post by seth October 3, 2012 (5 of 9)
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Kal Rubinson said:
The 5.0 is pretty common among the hundreds of classical SACDs.
If you set up bass management in the BDP-95 you should get sub output from the analog outs.
Check your settings.
If the poster is using an A/V receiver, they also need to check settings there. If you had the receiver automatically calibrate everything with microphone, the receiver will typically set the speakers to "large" so that the subwoofer is only used for LFE signals.
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Post by zoomin October 3, 2012 (6 of 9)
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So I had it set to use DSD output instead of PCM so the crossover was bypassed. Now I am getting sub output.
But still no center channel.
The center works just fine but this disc is just not producing any output on that channel.
I am currently running the whole disc with only the center turned on (active speakers) to see if maybe the disc is recorded with almost no (but still some!) center channel information.
All my speakers are set to small, sub is on with crossover set to 60 Hz.
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Probably a 4.0 recording...lots of the Hyperion discs and also the Zinman Mahler cycle are that way. SACD can only have a 2.0, 5.0, or 5.1 tracks...so if it's 4.0, it's done as a 5.0 track with no data in the center channel. Same way the 3-channel Living Stereo SACDs were 5.0 with no data in the surrounds.
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Post by seth October 3, 2012 (8 of 9)
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zoomin said:
Weird thing is - the Oppo claims it's 5.0 channels, but I never hear anything out of the centre channel speaker.
I agree with Ubertrout -- probably a 4.0 recording.
As for what the Oppo claims, if you're seeing that on the front display, I think it may be pulling that from some kind of info file on the disc rather than looking at the signal (probably same file the track name, arist name, etc). The Zander/Mahler discs that Ubertrout mentioned comes up as 5.1 on my SACD player even though it is 4.0.
If you are using an A/V receiver -- it sounds like you are -- that should be able to to tell you all the information about the signal being fed to it.
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Post by zoomin October 3, 2012 (9 of 9)
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Thanks for the replies.
From another forum:
"There is no spec for anything but 5.1 and 5.0 on SACD multichannel. So a 3, 4 or 5 ch will still be indicated as "5.0". The unused channels are just empty."
Seems likely it's by design then - a 4.0 recording.
I've tried to contact Chesky but their email is bouncing today with a "user over quota" message.
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