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willemvoorneveld said:
All the recordings suffer from swimming pool acoustics. On its own the reproduction of the string sections and instruments in general seem fine in their Multi-Channel version, but low frequencies drown in the tub. Note that their Multi-channel productions are presented in DTS MAster at 24/96 (recorded 24/88.2) but their stereo mix is only presented at 16/48Khz. The stereo quality I find dreadful.
I don't bother with stereo if MCH is available but I do agree.
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Post by pacwin August 7, 2012 (12 of 16)
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willemvoorneveld said:
Note that their Multi-channel productions are presented in DTS Master at 24/96 (recorded 24/88.2) but their Stereo mix is only presented at 16/48Khz. The stereo quality I find dreadful.
You must be doing something daft when you playback the Blu ray audio. Perhaps playing through your TV?. All the Naxos Blu Ray releases excepting the Lancino Requiem disc (48/24) have 96/24 Stereo Streams in the Blu Ray data. Many of these are upsampled 88.2/24 original recordings (Low end consumer devices can struggle with 88.2/176.4 frequencies). But not all: The Gershwin, Verdi Ballet, Mahler 8, Schubert Ouvertures, and the Dvorak 9 (not the 6 as its originally 88.2) are originally 96/24 recordings. Despite all that, they are adequate but not exceptional recordings, typical Naxos fare.
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Post by DSD August 7, 2012 (13 of 16)
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With so many masters at 88.2k and 176.4k I don't understand why BluRay players don't offer those sampling frequencies in addition to 96k and 192k. Could they be included in a future update of the BluRay format?
It seems the awkward conversion from 88.2k to 96k wouldn't have a chance of sounding as good as 88.2k all the way.
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pacwin said:
You must be doing something daft when you playback the Blu ray audio. Perhaps playing through your TV?. All the Naxos Blu Ray releases excepting the Lancino Requiem disc (48/24) have 96/24 Stereo Streams in the Blu Ray data. Many of these are upsampled 88.2/24 original recordings (Low end consumer devices can struggle with 88.2/176.4 frequencies). But not all: The Gershwin, Verdi Ballet, Mahler 8, Schubert Ouvertures, and the Dvorak 9 (not the 6 as its originally 88.2) are originally 96/24 recordings. Despite all that, they are adequate but not exceptional recordings, typical Naxos fare.
Yes, I agree. The download version of the Janacek Miss is available in 24/96, but the stereo files on the BLue-R issue itself are 16/48 whilst at the same time the MCH version is at 24/96. I would have expected that they include the stereo PCM24/96 version (or better the 88.2 from the recording) on the disk also. There does seem some space left on the disc to accommodate the 24/96 stereo version. My Marantz UD8004 can perfectly handle 88.2/176.4or96/192 in any bit rate and is not switched to down sampling.
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Post by Claude August 8, 2012 (15 of 16)
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DSD said:
With so many masters at 88.2k and 176.4k I don't understand why BluRay players don't offer those sampling frequencies in addition to 96k and 192k. Could they be included in a future update of the BluRay format?
Makers of $100 Blu-ray players don't care about a couple of music-only discs on the market. Blu-ray players are mainly used for movies, which are usually presented with 24/48 sound.
Naxos should simply put the recordings in their original resolution on their Blu-ray releases, even if this creates problems with a few players.
I have almost all of the Naxos Blu-ray discs, and I think they are good for the price (hardly more expensive then Naxos CDs).
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Post by seth August 8, 2012 (16 of 16)
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Claude said:
Makers of $100 Blu-ray players don't care about a couple of music-only discs on the market. Blu-ray players are mainly used for movies, which are usually presented with 24/48 sound.
I don't think that's necessarily true. It's more like mot Blu-ray players are designed with the belief that anyone who care about SQ is going to decode the DTS HD track external from the player. But BD players typically come setup for the lowest common deliminator, requiring power users to adjust a lot of settings (such as the whole thing with needing to shut off the secondary audio).
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