Post by hiredfox October 8, 2012 (151 of 329)
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rammiepie said:
I truly believe Universal was well aware of the RBCD's shortcomings back in the 80's when that perfect sound forever mularky was severely challenged by audiophiles the world over.
You are right of course and sadly we were all suckered for a while but then again when there's only one option.
The problem now is that we will be leaving a legacy of modern recordings that is still far from perfect but which probably will have to last for ever.
I see no signs of new mavericks prepared to challenge the "new standard" of 96/24 as being not good enough when even the superior DSD 64 coding is not good enough.
"Analogue" looks like being the forgotten word in our exciting new digital world.
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Post by rammiepie October 8, 2012 (152 of 329)
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hiredfox said:
I see no signs of new mavericks prepared to challenge the "new standard" of 96/24 as being not good enough when even the superior DSD 64 coding is not good enough.
"Analogue" looks like being the forgotten word in our exciting new digital world.
With the deterioration of a whole lot of "legacy" analogue recordings I staunchly believe that nothing is truly archival for preserving these masterworks.
Is 24/192 or 96/24 or even DSD 64 going to be the answer?
Even the 5" optical disc is prone to its own form of deterioration (laser rot, etc.) so unless the powers that be come up with a viable solution I'm afraid we're all at the mercy of the "guessers!"
"Nothing lasts forever" is always in full force.
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rammiepie said:
With the deterioration of a whole lot of "legacy" analogue recordings I staunchly believe that nothing is truly archival for preserving these masterworks.
Is 24/192 or 96/24 or even DSD 64 going to be the answer?
Even the 5" optical disc is prone to its own form of deterioration (laser rot, etc.) so unless the powers that be come up with a viable solution I'm afraid we're all at the mercy of the "guessers!"
"Nothing lasts forever" is always in full force.
Yet I have 28 year old cds that have lasted at least this long.
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Post by rammiepie October 10, 2012 (154 of 329)
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Jeffrey Kauffman (?) of Blu.Ray.com reviewed the Solti Ring Box set containing 15 rbcds, 1 dvd and 1 BD containing the complete 15 hours of content in LPCM 2.0 48/24 and was startled at the utmost fidelity and even exclaimed at the end of his lengthy review: Even if you are NOT a fan of the Solti Ring you owe it to yourselves to purchase this opulent boxed set. He said the packaging alone with librettos/translations is one of the most beautiful he has seen in recent memory.
BTW, Amazon has it as a preorder for $195.
How can I resist {such DRAMA}?
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Post by rammiepie October 10, 2012 (155 of 329)
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Can't resist: The same Jeffrey Kauffman also reviewed the Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour" and although the video was sourced from a non~master negative source, the sound in lossless DTS Master 5.1 is astounding.
Forget about the movie.......it's dated but "charming" in a goofy sort of way but hey, it's the Beatles in 5.1 DTS Master Audio!
Your Mother Should only Know!
Little Shop Of Horrors (theatrical cut & Director's cut with original ending) has also been released and the 5.1 DTS Master Audio is sourced from a 70mm 6 channel master and has been accorded a NEW life in BD. It's housed in a digibook!
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Post by Nagraboy October 10, 2012 (156 of 329)
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rammiepie said:
Jeffrey Kauffman (?) of Blu.Ray.com reviewed the Solti Ring Box set containing 15 rbcds, 1 dvd and 1 BD containing the complete 15 hours of content in LPCM 2.0 48/24 and was startled at the utmost fidelity and even exclaimed at the end of his lengthy review: Even if you are NOT a fan of the Solti Ring you owe it to yourselves to purchase this opulent boxed set. He said the packaging alone with librettos/translations is one of the most beautiful he has seen in recent memory.
BTW, Amazon has it as a preorder for $195.
How can I resist {such DRAMA}?
Is the Solti Ring in stereo or mono? I don't own any Wagner and thought maybe this would be a good starting point?
Shame the BD isn't available seperately.
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Post by rammiepie October 10, 2012 (157 of 329)
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Nagraboy said:
Is the Solti Ring in stereo or mono? I don't own any Wagner and thought maybe this would be a good starting point?
Shame the BD isn't available seperately.
Stereo..........
And for something different and up Nagraboy's alley is Steve Wilson's BD....."Get All You Deserve" recorded live in Mexico City with an unbelievable back~up band. The sound is some of the very best I've heard in any format and in mch (Nagraboy.....you've got to go mch), it's amazing!
So, Nagraboy, put the Solti Ring around your finger and wrap your prog/rock/jazz ears around Senor Wilson's foray into some tasty music (and video)........the visuals are stunning, as well.
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Post by seth October 10, 2012 (158 of 329)
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Nagraboy said:
Is the Solti Ring in stereo or mono? I don't own any Wagner and thought maybe this would be a good starting point?
Shame the BD isn't available seperately.
If you don't own any Wagner, starting with a video recording would make more sense so that you can get a better idea of how the leitmotifs relate to the characters and the action. The best Ring on Blu-ray is the Mehta recording, but it's no where ear as good as the Boulez recording which is only available on DVD.
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seth said:
the Boulez recording which is only available on DVD.
It was put out as a 12-disc box set by Philips in 2006, Amazon ASIN B000I8OFIM. Worth every penny of it even though it seems now to be out of print.
So also available on regular CD.
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Post by Abraxas November 2, 2012 (160 of 329)
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Just a few remarks:
The 1997 Solti Ring remastering always sounded not only just clinical, but clinical to a point where actual detials vanished.
To prove my point, just compare, in the Decca de luxe edition the last minutes of Götterdämmerung, when all the brass are playing the Walhall theme: If you listen to the same spot in the "Introduction to the Ring" cds, you'll hear, clearly, the woodwinds (together with a lot of tape hiss, but no matter!), while they are not to be perceptible at both the full CD recording, as well as at the BD disc.
On the SACD Esoteric, you "almost" seem to notice the woodwinds, but it is more like a guess, not an actual fact, while at the "Stereotape" RtR Dolby edition, they are not only listenable, but the lines are almost "graphic".
My points are:
1)as far as sound reproduction is concerned, digital is still miles behind from analogue reproduction.
2)Decca, do like the japanese when remastering analogue sources! Let the "Damn" original tape hiss be and let the music speak. I've just listened to a 20B/88Hz cd edition from Toshiba/EMI of Karajan's Tristan: unherad-of details appear, at the point of having a good idea of the traffic around the Jesus Christus Kirche, mostly at the start of the 3rd act...not to mention lots of low woowinds and violas, always drowned in previous editions.
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