Thread: Surround Speakers and Sub Ideal for MCH SACD Listening

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Post by ClassicalDJ June 7, 2012 (1 of 26)
I started a thread a month or so back requesting advice on a good SACD player/amp combo for multichannel listening. Thanks everyone for their great input! I decided to begin my setup with the following components:

_Sony BDP-S590 Blu-ray/SACD Player
_Denon AVR2112CI Receiver
_Klipsch RF-15 Floorstanding Speakers

Now it is time to start shopping for surround/center speakers and a sub to complete my setup.

I have been looking at Klipsch options for the surround/center speakers (thinking it perhaps best to keep within the same family since I like what I've heard from the from the towers so far). There seems to be two main options for the rear surround speakers: dispersion(?) and bookshelf. My instinct tells me bookshelf is the better option for MCH music, though maybe not as good for movies (which is fine with me). Picking a center speaker seems a bit more strait-forward. Is it a good idea to try to match all the speakers to my towers' power rating, or should the rear channels be weaker?

My budget for a sub is no more than $500, and space might be a consideration (this will be a living room system, and many of the 12" subs look massive enough to pass for a coffee table!). I listen almost exclusively to classical music, mainly orchestral, and I'd like something that handles the low organ registers well. I don't think there is any point adhering to Klipsch for the sub, though they seem to have to good options.

I'm looking forward to reading your opinions. This website has been a wonderful resource, and I'm building my SACD library as quickly as my budget allows!

Post by seth June 7, 2012 (2 of 26)
ClassicalDJ said:

Is it a good idea to try to match all the speakers to my towers' power rating, or should the rear channels be weaker?

My budget for a sub is no more than $500, and space might be a consideration (this will be a living room system, and many of the 12" subs look massive enough to pass for a coffee table!). I listen almost exclusively to classical music, mainly orchestral, and I'd like something that handles the low organ registers well. I don't think there is any point adhering to Klipsch for the sub, though they seem to have to good options.

Ideally all five speakers should be identical. That doesn't sound like it will be a possibility because you already have two fronts you want to keep, but keep this in mind when picking the rears and center.

I'm not familiar with the Klipsch RF-15 Floorstanding Speakers, but you may not need a sub woofer. I mean, the money could be better spent on other components. You should demo some music and movies with and without a sub using these or similar speakers.

Post by Polly Nomial June 7, 2012 (3 of 26)
As the Denon has Audyssey, I wouldn't worry so much about the speakers being identical - these sorts of things can do wonders!

Post by hooperthom June 7, 2012 (4 of 26)
Polly Nomial said:

As the Denon has Audyssey, I wouldn't worry so much about the speakers being identical - these sorts of things can do wonders!

To me as long as the speakers are the same make you really don't need identical speakers unless you have the room. With Audyssey all mine sounds great.

Post by Iain June 7, 2012 (5 of 26)
ClassicalDJ said:

I started a thread a month or so back requesting advice on a good SACD player/amp combo for multichannel listening. Thanks everyone for their great input! I decided to begin my setup with the following components:

_Sony BDP-S590 Blu-ray/SACD Player
_Denon AVR2112CI Receiver
_Klipsch RF-15 Floorstanding Speakers

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....... My instinct tells me bookshelf is the better option for MCH music, though maybe not as good for movies (which is fine with me). ..........

My budget for a sub is no more than $500, and space might be a consideration (this will be a living room system, and many of the 12" subs look massive enough to pass for a coffee table!). I listen almost exclusively to classical music, mainly orchestral, and I'd like something that handles the low organ registers well. I don't think there is any point adhering to Klipsch for the sub, though they seem to have to good options.

I'm looking forward to reading your opinions. This website has been a wonderful resource, and I'm building my SACD library as quickly as my budget allows!

If you enjoy organ music, then a quality, servo-based sub-woofer is essential to produce the low frequency fundamental tones that will make this type of music enjoyable to listen.

That said, you will not get such a sub-woofer for the amount you have listed. I suggest doubling that amount at least. If you feel that's too expensive, suggest you continue to save money until you can afford it. If you don't do this, you will kick yourself in future for having wasted money on inferior quality kit. You get what you pay for.

Also, Sony BDP-S590 is a good player for SA-CD. Just be aware that if you plan to to use RGB video on HDMI interface with this player, it's currently broken. Sony may or may not fix it with a firmware update. BTW, I'm considering BDP-S790 to replace my BDP-S770 later this year.

EDIT: Just found out RGB is broken on S790 as well. Oh well. : (

Post by FunkyMonkey June 8, 2012 (6 of 26)
Get the same speakers as at the front. It may help the sound, e.g. what if you don't like Audyssey (although most people who say they don't like Audyssey, have not bothered to set it up properly).
Matching speakers look better. Only get a centre and sub if you watch movies. Get a centre that Klipsch sells to match your fronts.

Post by seth June 8, 2012 (7 of 26)
FunkyMonkey said:

Only get a centre and sub if you watch movies. Get a centre that Klipsch sells to match your fronts.

The OP poster wants to listen to multichannel SACDs; he needs a center channel.

Post by ClassicalDJ June 8, 2012 (8 of 26)
FunkyMonkey said:

Get the same speakers as at the front. It may help the sound, e.g. what if you don't like Audyssey (although most people who say they don't like Audyssey, have not bothered to set it up properly).
Matching speakers look better. Only get a centre and sub if you watch movies. Get a centre that Klipsch sells to match your fronts.

I suspect rear floorstanding towers will not work with my living room setup. Currently I am eying Klipsch Reference shelf speakers (they would match nicely except for height) with similar specs to the RF-15 towers I own.

Post by FunkyMonkey June 8, 2012 (9 of 26)
seth said:

The OP poster wants to listen to multichannel SACDs; he needs a center channel.

I would certainly disagree. Unlike movies where the centre channel is used extensively for dialogue, with SACD, even for 5.1, I do not think you would lose a lot. I do think he should get one, but if budget limited, then, best to optimize more critical components.

Post by FunkyMonkey June 8, 2012 (10 of 26)
ClassicalDJ said:

I suspect rear floorstanding towers will not work with my living room setup. Currently I am eying Klipsch Reference shelf speakers (they would match nicely except for height) with similar specs to the RF-15 towers I own.

Cool. Just that I regret getting rear bookshelf when I could have got some matching the fronts.

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