Thread: Missed Elgar Cello Co opportunity

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Post by diw March 12, 2012 (1 of 11)
Chandos is releasing an Elgar Cello Concerto disc this week with Davis conducting. It will not be coming out on SACD, I emailed them and apparently it was not recorded in a format that would allow a MC release.

I really thought that Chandos was going to be the company to fill this gap, since most of Davis' recent British composer discs have been SACDs. Unfortunate.

We are running out of players to fix this gap.

Post by Claude March 12, 2012 (2 of 11)
I don't blame them for not releasing SACDs of stereo-only recordings. There is a 24/96 download available, so if you have the right equipment (playback device + DAC) you're not missing anything sound-wise.

This was recorded at the new MediacityUK studio. I wonder if the location has anything to do with it being stereo-only.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/orchestras/philharmonic/about/
http://mediacity.ws/2011/06/new-studio-for-bbc-philharmonic/

Post by diw March 12, 2012 (3 of 11)
Since I am a MC person, I agree. I don't know if we are going to get Bis or Channel to record this work for SACD. Channel did it on RBCD with their former house cellist, and Bis has never been big on English composers. I don't think Pentatone has a cellist on their artist roster. Don't know of any other options...

Post by Castor March 12, 2012 (4 of 11)
The new BBC Studio in Media City has a much better acoustic than the former Oxford Road Studio 7.

I have discussed its suitability for MC SACD with Richard Wigley the BBC Phil's General Manager and expressed a hope that the proposed Sibelius Symphony cycle with John Storgards would appear in SACD format. I do know that Stephen Rinker, their recording engineer, is a fan of SACD.

However, the final decision belongs to Chandos who may well decide for commercial reasons (cycles eventually coming from Vanska and Kamu etc.) that SACD is not for them.

Had the Elgar been recorded in the Bridgewater Hall it would have probably appeared as an SACD.

A lost opportunity - shame.

Post by hiredfox March 12, 2012 (5 of 11)
It would be really helpful if Ralph Couzens could give us a heads-up on how Chandos decides what should or should not be a SACD.

I don't buy into the non-mch source argument at all, as first and foremost SACD was intended by Sony to be a high-res format to advance the cause of sound reproduction IN STEREO!

Post by diw March 12, 2012 (6 of 11)
hiredfox said:

It would be really helpful if Ralph Couzens could give us a heads-up on how Chandos decides what should or should not be a SACD.

I don't buy into the non-mch source argument at all, as first and foremost SACD was intended by Sony to be a high-res format to advance the cause of sound reproduction IN STEREO!

That is true, but doesn't change the fact that many listeners here and many recording companies view SACD primarily as a MCH music delivery system. Bissie has said as much many times, i suspect Chandos operates the same way.

Anyway you stereo guys have plenty of expensive Japanese reissues to keep you busy, throw me a bone on new recordings being in MC :)

Post by Claude March 12, 2012 (7 of 11)
hiredfox said:

I don't buy into the non-mch source argument at all, as first and foremost SACD was intended by Sony to be a high-res format to advance the cause of sound reproduction IN STEREO!

That was last century, when nobody thought music in hi-rez quality could be downloaded. People just started to share MP3s on Napster.

Post by rammiepie March 12, 2012 (8 of 11)
diw said:

That is true, but doesn't change the fact that many listeners here and many recording companies view SACD primarily as a MCH music delivery system. Bissie has said as much many times, i suspect Chandos operates the same way.

Anyway you stereo guys have plenty of expensive Japanese reissues to keep you busy, throw me a bone on new recordings being in MC :)

And SACD multichannel is still the one medium which distinguishes it from, stereo~only vinyl, so can we at least preserve its uniqueness until production ceases on the 5" optical disc?

Post by diw March 13, 2012 (9 of 11)
The bottom line is, we still wait for a new SACD recording of this concerto!

Post by hiredfox March 13, 2012 (10 of 11)
diw said:

That is true, but doesn't change the fact that many listeners here and many recording companies view SACD primarily as a MCH music delivery system. Bissie has said as much many times, i suspect Chandos operates the same way.

Anyway you stereo guys have plenty of expensive Japanese reissues to keep you busy, throw me a bone on new recordings being in MC :)

I don't dispute what you say at all and indeed without their dual role it is hard to believe that SACD would still be with us. I am aware that BIS recordings are aimed at the mch market - they are not the only ones - which probably explains why such recordings seem always to disappoint in stereo. The two aims should not be incompatible.

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