Post by zeus August 16, 2005 (1 of 33)
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As most here are aware, there's a few SA-CDs out there with no stereo content (at least 17 by my reckoning). These are marked as "Multichannel" on the Title Details page, rather than "Stereo/Multichannel" or "Stereo". If you've only got a stereo player, it pays to check before ordering. Reviews that state ... gasp, horror ... that the disc doesn't play on a stereo player frankly aren't helpful. The information is already there for all to see on the Title Details page. If the listing is incorrect, simply click on the Report Errors link. OK?!
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Post by Johnno August 16, 2005 (2 of 33)
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As I have already mentioned else where, this is truly worrying for people like me and it could get to the stage when I stop buying SACDs.
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Post by zeus August 16, 2005 (3 of 33)
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Johnno said:
As I have already mentioned else where, this is truly worrying for people like me and it could get to the stage when I stop buying SACDs.
All you have to do if you have any doubts is to simply check before buying. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater!
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Post by nickc August 16, 2005 (4 of 33)
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Johnno said:
As I have already mentioned else where, this is truly worrying for people like me and it could get to the stage when I stop buying SACDs.
Instead of not buying SACDs why not go MC?
Don't get me wrong - nothing at all wrong with listening in stereo - it would be a shame to miss out on SACDs for that reason.
Cheers
Nick
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zeus said:
All you have to do if you have any doubts is to simply check before buying. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater!
Yes, except in the case of the Rach Concertos with Hough, I had to find out the hard way that, while multichannel, they were not 5.0 multichannel. Only after making it known to Steve Parry at Hyperion did that info come out clearly on their webpage. It is a great set, but soundwise is missing a great deal.
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Post by nickc August 17, 2005 (6 of 33)
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flyingdutchman said:
Yes, except in the case of the Rach Concertos with Hough, I had to find out the hard way that, while multichannel, they were not 5.0 multichannel. Only after making it known to Steve Parry at Hyperion did that info come out clearly on their webpage. It is a great set, but soundwise is missing a great deal.
hi dutchman
unfortunately i agree with that - we were stuck up in the back row in the highest seat in the house!
cheers
nick
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nickc said:
hi dutchman
unfortunately i agree with that - we were stuck up in the back row in the highest seat in the house!
cheers
nick
And it wasn't any new news to Mr. Parry since obviously he knew that the recording was 4 channel. However, I think it surprised him that consumers would want that info known on the cover or at least in the press releases. None of that was clear. I bought it anyway and have kept it, but there is a "sound" hole in those recordings.
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Post by Claude August 17, 2005 (8 of 33)
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nickc said:
Instead of not buying SACDs why not go MC?
Don't get me wrong - nothing at all wrong with listening in stereo - it would be a shame to miss out on SACDs for that reason.
Cheers
Nick
On the other hand, many of those rare multichannel-only discs are not worth buying, and certainly not worth upgrading the system.
Especially the cheapo Universal Eloquence series, which consists in "rechanneled" stereo recordings.
/alltitles/366
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Post by mdt August 17, 2005 (9 of 33)
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zeus said:
All you have to do if you have any doubts is to simply check before buying. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater!
During the entire (minimal) SA-CD promotion i've read everywhere, that SA-CD ALLWAYS contains a dedicated studio-made DSD stereo mix. "There will never be an automated down-mix on playback" (as with competing formats...).
I understood it as DSD stereo being standard for ALL(!) SA-CDs, with the possibel addition of DSD multichannel and/or CD stereo !
It's surprising to me that you, having followed SA-CD since the beginning, dont consider this recent development, which neglects the SA-CD standard, a problem. Instead you tell someone who rightly complains about this, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater ?!
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Post by zeus August 17, 2005 (10 of 33)
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mdt said:
It's surprising to me that you, having followed SA-CD since the beginning, dont consider this recent development, which neglects the SA-CD standard, a problem. Instead you tell someone who rightly complains about this, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater ?!
I didn't say that I condoned the practice, merely that there are means to determine whether the disc contains a stereo mix or not beforehand. I've never seen a mandated requirement for a stereo high-resolution mix in any documentation from Sony or Philips. Given the small number of discs without one, I don't think this is cause for hysteria.
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