Post by jim nj August 4, 2005 (1 of 10)
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Hello, new member and first post here.
In browsing (directed here from Audio Asylum/high res forum)I saw some posts concerning the Beethoven string quartets, by the Quartetto Italiano, possibly being reissued in sacd by Pentatone. I have, and love, this set on Philips lp, and would love to have it in sacd - provided that the recording quality was at least as good as on lp.
I hope that sacd would add sonic quality, beyond what top quality modern redbook cd could do. There is a 10-cd box set, in the Philips 50 Great Recording Series, supposedly in good sound. $80 at Amazon.
Any further developments regarding a sacd set?
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Post by nickc August 4, 2005 (2 of 10)
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jim nj said:
Hello, new member and first post here.
In browsing (directed here from Audio Asylum/high res forum)I saw some posts concerning the Beethoven string quartets, by the Quartetto Italiano, possibly being reissued in sacd by Pentatone. I have, and love, this set on Philips lp, and would love to have it in sacd - provided that the recording quality was at least as good as on lp.
I hope that sacd would add sonic quality, beyond what top quality modern redbook cd could do. There is a 10-cd box set, in the Philips 50 Great Recording Series, supposedly in good sound. $80 at Amazon.
Any further developments regarding a sacd set?
Hi Jim
Happy to hear from you! :) This Beethoven set would be in multichannel.
Cheers
Nick
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Post by Beagle August 5, 2005 (3 of 10)
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jim nj said:
I saw some posts concerning the Beethoven string quartets, by the Quartetto Italiano, possibly being reissued in sacd by Pentatone.
1. THREADS Have you been following the [Pentatone] and the [Half-baked idea] threads? Join the conspiracy of virtuall pre-ordering...
2. QUARTETS There is a good batch of LvB SQs on Praga, all exciting listening. That being said, my preference for the Last Quartets (vol 7) is the 'enhanced' ASV / Lindsay Qtt disc version. It is warmer-sounding than the Prazakova (IMHO).
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Post by jim nj August 5, 2005 (4 of 10)
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Beagle said:
1. THREADS Have you been following the [Pentatone] and the [Half-baked idea] threads? Join the conspiracy of virtuall pre-ordering...
2. QUARTETS There is a good batch of LvB SQs on Praga, all exciting listening. That being said, my preference for the Last Quartets (vol 7) is the 'enhanced' ASV / Lindsay Qtt disc version. It is warmer-sounding than the Prazakova (IMHO).
Thanks, Beagle - I will look into those threads. I saw pentaman state that Pentatone needs to sell 1000 sets to break even, so I wonder if we could gather so many pre-orders, especially for a 10 or so disc set.
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Post by tream August 5, 2005 (5 of 10)
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Beagle said:
. That being said, my preference for the Last Quartets (vol 7) is the 'enhanced' ASV / Lindsay Qtt disc version. It is warmer-sounding than the Prazakova (IMHO).
I've owned the Lindsays disc for over two years, and personally cannot abide their playing. (Horrible intonation). I applaud their retirement.
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Post by Johnno August 5, 2005 (6 of 10)
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tream said:
I've owned the Lindsays disc for over two years, and personally cannot abide their playing. (Horrible intonation). I applaud their retirement.
You're joking, surely. One of the finest chamber music concerts I've ever attended was an all-Beethoven concert (including opus 131, my favourite quartet) when the Lindsays came to NZ for the Festival of the Arts in Wellington some years ago. I shall never forget it.
Incidentally, I might not have perfect pitch but I'm certainly not tone-deaf!
Not surprisingly, I have almost every recording the Lindsays have ever made (including BOTH sets of the Beethoven quartets -- but I still have one or two of their recent Haydn sets to get, like the opus 71) and I am saddened by the thought of their retiring!!
However, I would welcome the Italians' Beethoven on SACD as I happen to have theirs complete too. Their opus 59/1 is especially fine and they bring insights into the music that even the Lindsays miss on occasions. Such music will always be greater than any performance can generate.
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Post by tream August 5, 2005 (7 of 10)
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Johnno said:
You're joking, surely. One of the finest chamber music concerts I've ever attended was an all-Beethoven concert (including opus 131, my favourite quartet) when the Lindsays came to NZ for the Festival of the Arts in Wellington some years ago. I shall never forget it.
Incidentally, I might not have perfect pitch but I'm certainly not tone-deaf!
Not surprisingly, I have almost every recording the Lindsays have ever made (including BOTH sets of the Beethoven quartets -- but I still have one or two of their recent Haydn sets to get, like the opus 71) and I am saddened by the thought of their retiring!!
However, I would welcome the Italians' Beethoven on SACD as I happen to have theirs complete too. Their opus 59/1 is especially fine and they bring insights into the music that even the Lindsays miss on occasions. Such music will always be greater than any performance can generate.
I'm not joking. Nor am I the only person to have noted this, including professional reviewers. The Lindsays seem to inspire passion, pro and con. A reviewer whom I respect, Bernard Jacobson, is in the former camp, and excuses the intonational lapses as "expressive devices" (partially, although he admits that playing in tune isn't their chief concern). On the other hand, Jerry Dubins, who has been covering the string quartets for Fanfare recently, concurs with my view. Before Nucaleena withdrew his postings and reviews from this site, he wrote even more dismissively of the Lindsays that I have.
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tream said:
I'm not joking. Nor am I the only person to have noted this, including professional reviewers. The Lindsays seem to inspire passion, pro and con. A reviewer whom I respect, Bernard Jacobson, is in the former camp, and excuses the intonational lapses as "expressive devices" (partially, although he admits that playing in tune isn't their chief concern). On the other hand, Jerry Dubins, who has been covering the string quartets for Fanfare recently, concurs with my view. Before Nucaleena withdrew his postings and reviews from this site, he wrote even more dismissively of the Lindsays that I have.
Tream - I concur too, it's so bad it's impossible to ignore!
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Post by Johnno August 8, 2005 (9 of 10)
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That's what makes music so intersting. We all have differing opinions. I'd go many miles to hear the Lindsay's play (and so would two friends of mine). You two probably wouldn't move into the next room if they were there -- indeed you might even wish for better sound proofing!.
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Post by nickc August 8, 2005 (10 of 10)
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Johnno said:
That's what makes music so intersting. We all have differing opinions. I'd go many miles to hear the Lindsay's play (and so would two friends of mine). You two probably wouldn't move into the next room if they were there -- indeed you might even wish for better sound proofing!.
One of my favourite chamber recordings is their first (circa 1984?) Beethoven Razumovsky Opus 59/1 - I haven't heard their later stuff.
Cheers
Nick
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