Post by mekduk October 28, 2011 (1 of 7)
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Anyone got this disc? Seems that Analogue Production has come up with an alternative to the SHM-SACD version. Any sound quality comparisons pertaining to SACD Stereo layer? I know this has multichannel vs stereo only on SHM-SACD.
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mekduk said:
Anyone got this disc? Seems that Analogue Production has come up with an alternative to the SHM-SACD version. Any sound quality comparisons pertaining to SACD Stereo layer? I know this has multichannel vs stereo only on SHM-SACD.
Personally, I have NOT heard either one but based on AP's site, they have accessed the absolute three channel master tapes, unused since the early '80's versus Universal Japan who did NOT (source is a mystery: 96/24 or 2nd/3rd generation analogue tapes?). And then there's the price: $30 for the AP mch version and $56 for the stereo only SHM~SACD!
To me, it's a no brainer. I'm buying the AP mch version for $30!
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Post by jazz1 October 28, 2011 (3 of 7)
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Why would anyone want to buy this disc???
Pianist Oscar Peterson has been such a consistent performer that none of his records are throwaways, but this particular CD reissue is weaker than most
There is so many good OP cd's available and with good audio to top it that I personally would never recomend this one to any friends. (I like my friends)
The choice of material which includes songs such as "People" "Days of wine and roses" are typical "requests" that people would make in the 60'
Musically this is a 1 1/2 star effort.
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Post by pacwin October 29, 2011 (4 of 7)
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Of the 4 recent Verve/Sterling Sound releases in the Analogue Productions set, the mono recordings by Fitzgerald and Armstrong and the Billie Holiday set sound very very good for their age. The Oscar Peterson is also a very liquid sounding release, but I dont think that these Verve releases are as startling as some of the Acoustech Blue Note and Impulse and Nat King Cole releases have been. Thats a function of the recording house style, the different mastering house andd to my ears at least the use of analogue to PCM. My eye is on the forthcoming SHM-SACD Peterson sets previously released on SACD. They are outstandingly crisp intimate analogue recordings.
I did not listen in 3 channels but I imagine it enhances the listening experience. The Getz Gilberto release is quite different than all previous iterations but nonetheless superb.
Ironically one of the forthcoming Analogue Productions SACD's in the Verve set Ella Fitzgerald Clap Hands, SACD release data as yet unannounced, was made available to HD tracks subscribers a few days ago in a choice of 96/24 ($17.98) or 192/24 ($24.98)and for a few dollars more (or even less from some resellers) you get the plastic artifacts to admire and resell and liner notes if and when its released. Music marketing is segmenting into an number of pricing tiers. As an audiophile I would prefer the PCM files, as a collector I would prefer the real discs for my collection. Who will now create a new segment of music SKU which is for music server i.e suitable files (PCM/DXD, DSD)in a jewel case with the notes and artwork?
https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HD00042283564626
http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=detail&Title_ID=68465
I would agree that this is not the most arresting Oscar Peterson material. Nonetheless its 3-channelness is a virtue
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Post by Claude October 29, 2011 (5 of 7)
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jazz1 said:
Why would anyone want to buy this disc???
There are audiophile favorites, and this is one of them, so it will always get reissued on audiophile formats.
High Fidelity has a music world on it's own. Many audiophiles think "Jazz at the Pawnshop" (the Arne Domnerus recording) is the best jazz recording ever, while many non-audiophile jazz fans have never heard of it (or of Arne Domnerus), since it is basically just extremely well recorded easy-listening stuff, the perfect jazz album for people who don't like jazz.
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Post by jazz1 October 29, 2011 (6 of 7)
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Claude said:
There are audiophile favorites, and this is one of them, so it will always get reissued on audiophile formats.
I just find it weird! I remember talking to a jazz singer of which her first cd was issued on an audiophile label, subsequently she recorded other cd's on
a std label, 10 years or so after her first recording she was still surprised to see her first recording was still outselling the newer ones even that she always tought that her first recording was musicaly inferior to the newer ones.
It just shows that to lot's of audiophiles sound quality is the priority not the music, which to my mind is a little sad.
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Post by wolfE October 30, 2011 (7 of 7)
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I received this one last week.
Because I am a fan of Analogue Productions(for example the new Muddy Waters sounds great, much better than the original Universal SACD, and I am looking forward to the upcoming WYWH !!), I regret my conclusion after making some comparisons: This new remastered version is not really bad, it is better, more analogue than the SHM-SACD, but is topped by the Lim-RBCD-version (Silver and Collectors version) in every respect. The Lim version gives the instruments more heights, more body and more power, even more space between the instruments. Over all the the Lim-RBCD is more vivid and thrilling.
With "Ella and Louis" and "Getz/Gilberto" it is the same impression. They sound smooth and analogue-like, but too soft and "padded" (I do not know, if this is the right English). Here I would prefer the - expensive - SHM -versions.
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