Thread: EMI Music Japan will release 101 Hybrid SACDs from December 2011 to March 2012

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Post by Polarius T November 14, 2011 (71 of 115)
Claude said:

...it has been done with most previous japanese SACD reissues of european material (Universal Classics, Esoteric). I didn't know about the Furtwängler recordings being newly transfered specifically for the SACDs.

If EMI Japan really had done new DSD transfers from the analogue master tapes (which either had to be shipped to Japan, or their engineers sent to Europe to do the transfers), I'm sure they would cleary advertize this, as it would be quite an ambitious project.

True, but the Furtwaengler EMIs kinda, sorta keep me hopeful about this. Here's Simon Gibson from EMI talking about the project and explaining the process:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfA61_noOQQ

...and here a brief note on the same, from ad copy (it's Google translated from Japanese; I've not seen anything about any of this in English, anywhere, so you are certainly right about lack of publicity):

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.hmv.co.jp/news/article/1108050090/ (scroll down & see under "Catalogue Remastered SACD CD Furtwangler name (hybrid) series."

(Btw, that Ring is great.)

PT

Post by pacwin November 14, 2011 (72 of 115)
Claude said:

Because it's the most likely procedure, and it has been done with most previous japanese SACD reissues of european material (Universal Classics, Esoteric).

Most of the Universal Japan SACD-SHM seem to be based on "DSD masters" some of them done this year. The forthcoming Fischer Dieskau for example "DSD master German Emil Berliner Studios latest creation in 2011". If Universal own EMI's back catalogue that raises the prosepct of another round of reissues from DSD capture!!.

In the case of the jazz releases in particular it is not always clear if these are DSD transfers as DSD data or DSD master files from previous releases.


Translation universal Classic SCD-SMH release

Post by Polarius T November 14, 2011 (73 of 115)
pacwin said:


Translation universal Classic SCD-SMH release

Wow - Pollini! Times three!!!

That Beethoven set is the greatest LvB piano recording ever. Period.

PT

Post by seth November 14, 2011 (74 of 115)
pacwin said:

Most of the Universal Japan SACD-SHM seem to be based on "DSD masters" some of them done this year. The forthcoming Fischer Dieskau for example "DSD master German Emil Berliner Studios latest creation in 2011". If Universal own EMI's back catalogue that raises the prosepct of another round of reissues from DSD capture!!.

In the case of the jazz releases in particular it is not always clear if these are DSD transfers as DSD data or DSD master files from previous releases.


Translation universal Classic SCD-SMH release

I would be skeptical. Labels will claim that something was remastered in DSD when all they did was convert an old PCM transfer to DSD for the final output.

Post by stvnharr November 14, 2011 (75 of 115)
Polarius T said:

True, but the Furtwaengler EMIs kinda, sorta keep me hopeful about this. Here's Simon Gibson from EMI talking about the project and explaining the process:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfA61_noOQQ

PT

PT,
Thanks for the link. I enjoyed watching it.

Post by Claude November 15, 2011 (76 of 115)
The tag "DSD mastering" is meaningless. Japanese labels often use it as opposed to "DSD recording", so it just says that the recording is not DSD, but it doesn't say anything about the transfer method of analogue tapes. Every SACD is DSD mastered by definition.

Post by ar80 November 30, 2011 (77 of 115)
For the record, although there are only four engineers working on these catalogue reissues for SACD, all of the work is being carried out at Abbey Road Studios in London. It is a mammoth effort and we are on target to deliver the finished masters to Japan for manufacture. As others have noted here, the methods being used are described in a video available on Abbey Road's Youtube site. Because of the need to use our PCM-based audio restoration and remastering equipment on these archive recordings, the original analogue masters are being transferred A/D to 96k 24bit PCM. There are simply not the equivalent DSD tools to remaster to the required level in the DSD domain. We hope you will enjoy these new SACD releases of some classic recordings.

Post by ar80 November 30, 2011 (78 of 115)
Regarding the Rattle / BPO SACD releases, The Planets and Mahler 5 are both issued as Stereo AND Multi-channel discs. The Planets is issued with a surround version for the first time. Maler 5 had a previous DVD-Video/Audio release in surround.

Post by Polarius T November 30, 2011 (79 of 115)
ar80 said:

For the record, although there are only four engineers working on these catalogue reissues for SACD, all of the work is being carried out at Abbey Road Studios in London. It is a mammoth effort and we are on target to deliver the finished masters to Japan for manufacture. As others have noted here, the methods being used are described in a video available on Abbey Road's Youtube site. Because of the need to use our PCM-based audio restoration and remastering equipment on these archive recordings, the original analogue masters are being transferred A/D to 96k 24bit PCM. There are simply not the equivalent DSD tools to remaster to the required level in the DSD domain. We hope you will enjoy these new SACD releases of some classic recordings.

Thank you for the additional confirmation; great to have this straight from the horse's mouth.

I've been tremendously enjoying the Furtwaengler releases (they are an excellent job!) and am very much looking forward to a large number of these new releases. They really must have kept you busy over there...

PT

Post by hiredfox November 30, 2011 (80 of 115)
Surely there would be a Dvorak Symphony 5 in amongst this lot, thought I...

No such luck. Still an unbelievable omission from the entire SACD catalogue

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