Thread: DVD-A/SACD universal players

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Post by dvda-sacd July 26, 2005 (1 of 14)
Nowadays there is a wide range of universal DVD players, which play SACD and DVD-Audio discs, from several manufactures, such as Pioneer, Onkyo, Marantz, Samsung, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Denon, Sherwood, Lexicon, etc. I have compiled a lot of them in my web site:

http://dvda-sacd.webcindario.com

Post by mknappe July 26, 2005 (2 of 14)
dvda-sacd said:

Nowadays there is a wide range of universal DVD players, which play SACD and DVD-Audio discs, from several manufactures, such as Pioneer, Onkyo, Marantz, Samsung, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Denon, Sherwood, Lexicon, etc. I have compiled a lot of them in my web site:

http://dvda-sacd.webcindario.com

Thanks, this is very helpful. In looking through all these models, was it well documented which units had dedicated SACD processing/output in their DAC's rather than conversion to PCM before output?

Post by dvda-sacd July 26, 2005 (3 of 14)
mknappe said:

Thanks, this is very helpful. In looking through all these models, was it well documented which units had dedicated SACD processing/output in their DAC's rather than conversion to PCM before output?

I have not included detailed information for the moment, but you can investigate into the official web sites of the manufacturers.

Post by dvda-sacd August 1, 2005 (4 of 14)
NAD M55 digital disc player

The first NAD universal DVD player!
SACD/DVD-Audio/HDCD compatibility.

Post by racerguy August 1, 2005 (5 of 14)
You have the Classe CDP-300 listed on your website as a "universal" player. It does not play SACDs.

Post by dvda-sacd August 1, 2005 (6 of 14)
racerguy said:

You have the Classe CDP-300 listed on your website as a "universal" player. It does not play SACDs.

The CDP-300 is a universal disc-player that plays CD, DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, SACD and other disc formats. It features six high-quality analog audio channels as well as progressively scanned analog and scaled digital video.

Visit this link for detailed specifications:

http://www.classeaudio.com/delta/specs/cdp300.htm

Post by slatedrake August 2, 2005 (7 of 14)
Wow..

I've been waiting for NAD to come out with a universal player.

Is the M55 on the market yet? Does anyone know anything else about this player?

Post by racerguy August 3, 2005 (8 of 14)
dvda-sacd said:

The CDP-300 is a universal disc-player that plays CD, DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, SACD and other disc formats. It features six high-quality analog audio channels as well as progressively scanned analog and scaled digital video.

Visit this link for detailed specifications:

http://www.classeaudio.com/delta/specs/cdp300.htm

That page is no longer linked on the Classe website, and contains outdated information.

Classe' decided to drop SACD support on this player prior to its release.

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Classé Audio Brings DVD-Audio Player to Acclaimed Delta Series

Classé Audio, the Quebec, Canada manufacturer whose standard-setting components for high-end audio and home-theater systems are admired worldwide, has enhanced its acclaimed Delta series of refined audio-video components with a superb new DVD player. In addition to DVD-Video discs, the Classé CDP-300 also plays DVD-Audio, standard CDs, DualDisc, and discs encoded with MP3, WMA and AAC audio formats. The newest Classé also handles Video-CD, S-VCD and JPEG picture discs.

Fashion, Function and Firsts

As the first Classé Delta series DVD player, the CDP-300 shares the beautiful industrial design and elegant control screens found throughout the range. It is in fact the first DVD player to offer touchscreen control and video preview on the front panel. The preview feature allows audiophiles the option of enjoying a pure music listening session without the noise often associated with projectors and other display devices. Simply navigate DVD-Audio (or DVD-Video) discs from the front panel and listen under quiet, ideal conditions.

The CDP-300 DVD player utilizes a slot-loader mechanism for reading discs. It was chosen for its superior disc-handling characteristics, reliability and control options. Fitting neatly within the delta series model’s black control strip, the slot is illuminated by a soft blue light to assist when loading discs in a darkened room.

From its specially designed, vibration-absorbing feet to its strong and rigid chassis and DVD-ROM drive, the CDP-300 is a “from the ground-up” design, serving as a high-quality and reliable disc-playing platform with audio and video signal paths fully optimized to deliver the experience like no other.

Digital to Analog, Amazing Audio

The presence of jitter (time base distortion) at the point of conversion from digital to analog increases distortion and robs the playback system of resolution. To reduce jitter in the CDP-300, digital audio signals of all types (CD, DVD, DVD-Audio, etc.) are routed through a CPLD (Complex Programmable Logic Device) and sample rate converter to de-correlate them from the MPEG decoder (video) clock. The result is that all digital sources are recreated as 24-bit/192kHz signals and re-clocked before being output to the D-to-A converters. By attacking jitter at its source, the Classé Design Team makes great sounding audio possible from a variety of digital formats.

Three stereo DACs (with 8x filters) have been selected to perform the delicate process of converting digital audio to analog. Each channel of each stereo DAC is itself converted as a differential signal. Six channels of analog audio are output in single-ended format on RCA connectors, while the front left and right channels are also available balanced on XLR connectors. These channels are truly balanced, having been taken as differential outputs from each channel of a stereo DAC.

Digital and Analog, Virtuous Video

The latest flat panel displays and certain projector models can display as many as 1080 horizontal lines at once. In order to capitalize on this new, higher resolution capability, the CDP-300 DVD Player utilizes newly developed video processing circuitry, making it the world’s first DVD player to offer a full implementation of all HDTV resolutions. Digital video on HDMI is available at 480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p.

In addition to deinterlacing and scaling functions, the CDP-300 employs extensive digital processing to reduce “mosquito noise,” improve edge definition, adaptively control color/contrast ratios and improve chroma transient performance. Said another way, the CDP-300 performs complex mathematics to deliver a sharper, clearer, more compelling image than has been possible from earlier DVD player technologies.

Encore!

As with audio, the performance of video circuitry owes partly to the individual components and partly to the execution of an overall design strategy. The fact is, high-end players often use similar parts, but usually reach quite different levels of performance. The CDP-300 uses state-of-the-art component parts, employed to maximum advantage and built with precision and care. But its true value is only realized by playing familiar music recordings and watching your favorite movies.

First to market with 1080p video, first with touchscreen control and first with video preview capability, the CDP-300 is truly in a class by itself because of its subjective audio and video performancequalities. The subjective experience is what separates a Classé disc player from everything else.


CDP-300 Highlights

Audio

* Compatible with CD, DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, DualDisc, Video-CD, S-VCD, MP3, AAC and WMA formats.
* All audio formats are up-sampled to 24-bit/192kHz prior to Digital-to-Analog conversion.
* Classe Audio’s Re-clocking circuit topology effectively attenuates clock jitter mechanisms that are present in most other DVD playback solutions.
* All audio formats are decoded internally before Digital-to-Analog conversion. A concurrent IEC958 (SPDIF, AES/EBU and TOSLINK) output is provided.
* DVD-Audio is output as IEC958 (SPDIF, AES/EBU and TOSLINK) for decoding in a Surround Sound Processor with a concurrent 2-channel analog audio downmix.
* 6 analog audio outputs are provided with RCA connections (single-ended). Front Left and Right outputs are also supported in balanced format.
* Audio and video are synchronized during DVD-Video playback.

Video

* Worlds first high-end DVD Player to offer a full implementation of all HDTV resolutions.
* Digital Video output on HDMI can be de-interlaced and scaled to the following resolutions: 480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p.
* Analogue Video output on YPrPb/RGB can be de-interlaced and scaled to the following resolutions: 480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p and 1080i.
* Extensive digital video processing to reduce video “mosquito” noise, improve edge definition, adaptively control color/contrast ratios and improve chroma transient performance.

Control

* Touchscreen user interface with video preview mode
* Bi-Directional RS-232 Control
* CAN BUS ports for inter-Classé component communication
* Rear panel IR and DC trigger sockets
* IR Remote control with backlight and Classé system Function Keys.

The Classé CDP-300 is manufactured entirely by Classé at its Quebec facilities, using the highest-quality components available worldwide. Its striking aluminum chassis, fascia and touchscreen front panel combine quality, performance, and function in stunning harmony. The CDP-300 will be available June 2005, at a manufacturer’s suggested price of $6,500 (US).

Post by dvda-sacd August 4, 2005 (9 of 14)
racerguy said:

That page is no longer linked on the Classe website, and contains outdated information.

Classe' decided to drop SACD support on this player prior to its release.

Thank you for your information. I will update my web page.

Post by dvda-sacd August 4, 2005 (10 of 14)
slatedrake said:

Wow..

I've been waiting for NAD to come out with a universal player.

Is the M55 on the market yet? Does anyone know anything else about this player?

The NAD M55 belongs to the new Master Series and I think it will be available about December.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=563866

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