Thread: A hopefully forgivable non-SACD thread. McCartney Band on the Run 24/96

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Post by Goodwood December 2, 2010 (1 of 23)
Anyone tried this?

http://www.paulmccartney.com/bandontherun/

See HiRes for $19.99

What does one do with it? Do I need DVD-A authoring software?

It's tempting.

Post by Arthur December 2, 2010 (2 of 23)
You can burn it to a regular DVD. (The point of DVD-A as far as I can figure out was it provided copy protection for the labels!)

Media Monkey or Audacity are both free programs you can get online. I can use Roxio Toast on my Mac, but my version of Roxio won't do 24/96 on my PC.

DVDs can generally hold around 2 hours of music at 24/96.

Post by Goodwood December 2, 2010 (3 of 23)
Appreciate the tip. Sounds easy enough!

Post by The Seventh Taylor December 2, 2010 (4 of 23)
Arthur said:

You can burn it to a regular DVD. (The point of DVD-A as far as I can figure out was it provided copy protection for the labels!)

That's a rather cynical view (especially since CPPM was hardly any better than CSS). A benefit of DVD-A over DVD-V is the ability to accomodate multichannel PCM. I assume however this album is just stereo, right?

Post by rammiepie December 2, 2010 (5 of 23)
You are correct......stereo. At least I have the DTS multi~channel 5.1 version that came out at the early part of the new millennium. For anyone interested while we're definitely off topic, Keith Jarrett's masterpiece, the Koln Concert, from ECM, is also available as a 96/24 download (stereo).

Post by porpielee December 2, 2010 (6 of 23)
Arthur said:

(The point of DVD-A as far as I can figure out was it provided copy protection for the labels!)

DVD-Audio can also reproduce 16bit/44.1khz, 20/44.1 24/44.1, 24/88.1 etc in their native resolutions. DVD-video can only do 24/48 or in multiples of it. If you tried to burn all Tchaikovsky symphony cycle CDs (or all Shostakovich string quartets) in one DVD-Audio losslessly (so that you could listen to them all day long - didn't turn out to be as fun as I hoped though...), you would know.

Post by konoyaro December 2, 2010 (7 of 23)
Yes, I bit on the 24/96 download of Band on the Run and All Things Must Pass. I used Cirlinca DVD-Audio Solo http://cirlinca.com/ to burn a DVD-Audio disk of the files. It was pretty easy to do. Cirlinca is available on a trial basis if you want to try it out first.

Post by Arthur December 2, 2010 (8 of 23)
porpielee said:

DVD-Audio can also reproduce 16bit/44.1khz, 20/44.1 24/44.1, 24/88.1 etc in their native resolutions. DVD-video can only do 24/48 or in multiples of it. If you tried to burn all Tchaikovsky symphony cycle CDs (or all Shostakovich string quartets) in one DVD-Audio losslessly (so that you could listen to them all day long - didn't turn out to be as fun as I hoped though...), you would know.

Okay, I stand corrected. However, when DVD-Audio was introduced the major labels who were pushing the format (Warner and to a lesser extent Universal) had already pretty much switched to recording in 24/96. Most were NOT in multi-channel. These could have easily been issued on regular DVDs in their native resolutions. But somehow they weren't - a new format was introduced, one that trumpeted higher resolution and surround to consumers, but copy protection to people in the industry.

I'm not really being cynical - just realistic!

DVDs have proven quite convenient for me with 24/96 downloads. Though I keep copies of the files on my external hard drive, I make DVDs too for simplicity's sake. I recently been downloading the 3 discs of Schuetz from Da Capo, and they fit nicely onto 2 DVDs with around 110 minutes playing time each.

Post by carrolls December 3, 2010 (9 of 23)
The thing that McCartney is eluding to is that people who generally want Hi Res want to have the physical media so the can regard it as a valuable collectable item or investment as well as a means of enjoying the album. A DVD-r does not exactly fill your average audiophile with a huge amount of excitement. They may as well torrent it for all this download is worth to them. Its certainly not worth $38. An SACD would be worth $38, but not a download.
Macca is doing a disservice to his fans by not putting out an SACD.

Post by rammiepie December 3, 2010 (10 of 23)
Concord Records is releasing Band On The Run in multiple formats but as we all well know, they have banished SACDs from their release schedule. In the December issue of the Absolute Sound David Chesky while discussing HD track downloads also surmised that 5.1 might be offered down the pike but that "audiophiles have spoken and they prefer stereo." If you can find the OOP BOTR DTS version (5.1) it does offer some pleasures but was never a sonic marvel to begin with (the quality of cuts from track to track ranged from great to mediocre).

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