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Discussion: Shostakovich: Symphony No. 7 - Caetani

Posts: 9

Post by Jonalogic August 4, 2010 (1 of 9)
Folks Hi

Has anyone bought this? I have, and was intending to give it very high marks, until a horrific technical glitch in the very final bars blew it out of the water.

Instead of the final bars dying into silence with two barely audible enigmatic celesta notes, we have one VERY loud 'plonk' transient on right channel (both SACD stereo and RBCD layer).

I know this is a live performance, and there are some other odd pops and clicks in this recording, but this final blemish absolutely shatters the tragic, atmospheric end of the symphony.

Why on earth couldn't they have covered this with a 'patch edit' after the event?

Oh dear.

Post by arnaoutchot August 4, 2010 (2 of 9)
Have to listen to it again, cannot remember any loud noise, after all it is a live recording. I do not like live recordings to be artificially treated later, if there was a noise, then be it. After all, I think this is the reference SACD cycle of DSCH's symphonies.

Post by dschawv August 4, 2010 (3 of 9)
I don't want to seem like a know it all, but, the Shostakovich 7 does not end with two quiet celesta notes.
The end of the "Leningrad" is hugely loud and bombastic. I think you have #4 or #8 in mind.
As to this cycle, I have liked most of it. I have "1905"on SACD and love it. The bells are, in a word, HUGE!

Hope this helps.

Post by seth August 4, 2010 (4 of 9)
Jonalogic said:

Folks Hi

Has anyone bought this? I have, and was intending to give it very high marks, until a horrific technical glitch in the very final bars blew it out of the water.

Instead of the final bars dying into silence with two barely audible enigmatic celesta notes, we have one VERY loud 'plonk' transient on right channel (both SACD stereo and RBCD layer).

I know this is a live performance, and there are some other odd pops and clicks in this recording, but this final blemish absolutely shatters the tragic, atmospheric end of the symphony.

Why on earth couldn't they have covered this with a 'patch edit' after the event?

Oh dear.

Did you post this under the right symphony?

The 7th ends in C major crescendo played by the whole orchestra.

Post by Claude August 5, 2010 (5 of 9)
Jonalogic said:

the final bars dying into silence with two barely audible enigmatic celesta notes

It seems that you describe the 4th symphony

Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4 - Caetani

Post by Jonalogic August 12, 2010 (6 of 9)
arnaoutchot said:

Have to listen to it again, cannot remember any loud noise, after all it is a live recording. I do not like live recordings to be artificially treated later, if there was a noise, then be it. After all, I think this is the reference SACD cycle of DSCH's symphonies.

My original comment was mis-posted, I'm afraid. It should have been under Caetani's 4th!

Post by Jonalogic August 12, 2010 (7 of 9)
Claude said:

It seems that you describe the 4th symphony

Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4 - Caetani

Spot on, Claude. My original comment was mis-posted, I'm afraid. It should have been under Caetani's 4th!

It still sounds pretty heinous...

Post by Jonalogic August 12, 2010 (8 of 9)
dschawv said:

I don't want to seem like a know it all, but, the Shostakovich 7 does not end with two quiet celesta notes.
The end of the "Leningrad" is hugely loud and bombastic. I think you have #4 or #8 in mind.
As to this cycle, I have liked most of it. I have "1905"on SACD and love it. The bells are, in a word, HUGE!

Hope this helps.

dschawv

Quite right. My original comment was mis-posted, I'm afraid. It should have been under Caetani's 4th!

Post by Jonalogic August 12, 2010 (9 of 9)
Folks. Just to make it clear my comment was mis-posted and should refer to Caetani's Shostakovich 4 - although this not the only one of his symphonies that ends with a celesta...

It's a really bad cockup, and I'm gob-smacked that Arts didn't patch it later. It completely hurls a brick through the hushed and delicately ambiguous ending.

After Caetani's 11th, which I think we all agreed was special, the rest of this cycle that I have listened to thus far is producing a very mixed bag:

1) A good 4, but marred in the final bars
2) A good 5, but with the world's largest xylophone just sounding damn silly
3) Decent but not outstanding 6 and 9.
4) A rather poor, low-energy 10th; if II doesn't explode in your face like a live grenade, this just ain't working...

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