Thread: Say NO to Simon & Garfunkel on Audio Fidelity's Gold CDs because...........

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Post by rammiepie November 27, 2014 (111 of 115)
Astral said:

Let's not give advice on avoiding things we have no clue about please.

I actually HAVE and have been LISTENING to 4 of the new S&G 24/192, they sound absolutely unbelievably good, particularly Bookends which has never sounded better.

This is really a model of how true hi-res transfers should be done. Sony have done a fabulous job here.

That 'problematic' Bridge Over Troubled Water? It sounds terrific for the mot part. Great depth and inner detail, and I cannot see how anyone could call it "veiled" whatever that audio buzz word means. It is hardly veiled, it has great clarity. There were a couple of tracks that revealed a slight bit of roughness around the edges that were an indication to me that a master tape might actually have been used here, but nothing to worry about. It is a very fine transfer.

That's great to hear, Robert.

The better the system, the better the sound. Always was and will always be.

Since I've had my system professionally EQed, I am reveling in sound from physical discs which I've never quite experienced before.

Played Billy Cobham's Spectrum DVD~A 5.1 tonight and the drums were exquisitely recorded and even the surrounds, while always tasteful, enveloped this listener with sound I never quite experienced before.

So, S&G in 24/192 will be a welcomed addition to my SooLoos.

Thanks for the advice.

And another reason I'm always wary of reviews that downgrade the SQ of a recording when I know that's just NOT the case. And they're out there IN SPADES!

Post by terence November 27, 2014 (112 of 115)
That 'problematic' Bridge Over Troubled Water? It sounds terrific for the mot part. Great depth and inner detail, and I cannot see how anyone could call it "veiled" whatever that audio buzz word means. It is hardly veiled, it has great clarity. There were a couple of tracks that revealed a slight bit of roughness around the edges that were an indication to me that a master tape might actually have been used here, but nothing to worry about. It is a very fine transfer.
By "veiled" I meant slightly cloudy and smudgy in terms of tonal contrast, not as vivid as I was expecting in terms of coloration, with fuzzy strings in orchestrated bits, and generally less clarity of definition spatially than you would expect at this level of resolution. It doesn't have the "freshness" of sound and perspective you'd expect, and both on my speakers and headphones makes a rather muffled impression.

Annoyingly there's no booklet provided to explain what the source of this remastering is. But I can't believe it was the original master tapes, and I strongly suspect it was copies.

Compared, say, to the Creedence Clearwater Revival or Doors remasters from the same period, this BOTW for me is definitely disappointing.

Post by dobyblue November 27, 2014 (113 of 115)
Sorry if I missed the specific post, but are we any closer to the multichannel S&G releases?

Post by cordobaman November 27, 2014 (114 of 115)
rammiepie said:

...CDJapan does show a Blu Spec version of BOTW for about $15.......but NO info on what master was utilized.

BOTW is one of my all-time favorite albums and I am ever-seeking the best version. To that end I had purchased the Blu-Spec2 version to see if it would be an improvement over my MasterSound Gold CD. The BS2 was very good, but I still preferred the MS Gold. There was a warmth to the Gold CD that was not quite there on the BS2. The vocals were a little more up-front with the SP2. The overall DR rating of 12 was the same for both, but did not align exactly from song to song.I no longer have the BS2 so I cannot provide any more detail, however if you cannot score a Gold CD it really was pretty good.

So I am reading every post about the hi-rez download before I plop down $25 for something sub-par to what I have. Maybe someone would be willing to trade a 1 minute snippet of "The Boxer" to compare?

Post by Marpow November 27, 2014 (115 of 115)
cordobaman said:

So I am reading every post about the hi-rez download before I plop down $25 for something sub-par to what I have. Maybe someone would be willing to trade a 1 minute snippet of "The Boxer" to compare?

Well, I was able to listen to a Hi Res via my Tidal subscription through the Bluesound and I decided, for me, I am not that big of a fan of Simon and Garfunkle, not heavy enough for me. However, I love the Greatest Hits and am satisfied with that.

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