Post by junchoon April 21, 2011 (141 of 152)
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sordidman said:
I respect what others have to say here, - to each his own.
I played the Redbook SHM CD of Aja, then I put on the SACD of Gaucho, then back to the SHM SACD of Aja, then on to Hugh Masekela HOPE SACD, - just for giggles. The Hugh Masekela and STeely Dan Gaucho SACDs were OUTSTANDING, and were hugely better than the AJA SHM SACD and the SHM redbook. Wowow that Gaucho SACD was amazing. (But hey, the original analog tape that it was made from could've been a lot better than Aja: I don't know).
Someone speculated that the polarity was reversed on the Aja SHM SACD transfer; that might make sense.
I can only relate what I heard, on my system. I had my downstairs neighbor with me, for all of the listening: he agreed 100%. We were using the SPL meter too.
Allegedly, both the SHM redbook and the SHM SACD were made from the same master.
There are folks who will be listening to SHM SACD with polarity reversed. I am anxious to hear their reports.
OT
Anyone knows which version of stimela is best? Sacd or the LP?
Thanks
wps
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Post by Tim-sacd April 23, 2011 (142 of 152)
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Sources are always mentionned on the Universal SHM-SACD page (google translate). Most of the releases come from tape (early releases mainly japanese copy tapes, lately most of the releases came from UK and US Original mastertapes).
The releases I've got using "Japanese copy tapes" sound very good to outstanding to me.
They don't use upconverting, EQ'ing,... etc. Normally the releases are all flat tape transfers.
Only for Deutsche Grammophon they did use digital 96-24 transfers. All DG-releases were archived to digital a few years ago (no more tapes available).
I've got some of the DG shm-sacd and those sound wonderful, and better than any version of the same title I've heard before on sacd or cd.
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Post by Espen R April 23, 2011 (143 of 152)
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Tim-sacd said:
All DG-releases were archived to digital a few years ago (no more tapes available).
Do you say that they transfered the original analogue master tapes to PCM 24/96 and then destroyed the tapes?
If so, that's a criminal act that deserves years in prison for the involved.
Think of if someone took a digital high resolution picture transfer of "Mona Lisa" and destroyed the original...
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The Seventh Taylor said:
It's not like they made a 5.1 DTS mix of the whole album and two tracks of that went missing. Instead, when they wanted to do so they disocovered the multitrack masters of two of the songs were AWOL.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aja_%28album%29
> I am also surprised that they're bothering to re-do an already excellent SACD of Getz Gilberto.
There are already *two* remasters of that album. Indeed, why not one of the many other excellent Getz albums?
Thanks for the info and the link. I did read the link you provided and in the discussion of the two last tracks, I find it totally hysterical that:
"Donald Fagen has offered a $600 reward for the missing masters or any information that leads to their recovery."
No wonder they haven't found them yet. $600 is probably only some of the pocket change in Fagan's pants!
We should all chip in a few bucks and make it a real reward to have a better chance in getting this classic in multi-channel!
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It never ceases to amaze me how film preservationists can locate film elements from the silent era and impeccably restore them and yet a classic rock album made in 1977 has missing multitrack masters. Even more perplexing is the absence of safety masters.
$600 reward for what? Maybe some hack tossed them in the garbage.
A possible solution: Re~Record the instrumental tracks preserving the original vocal tracks. I'm sure it's been done before.
IMHO, AJA in 5.1 would rival Wish You Were Here in sales.
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Post by fredblue April 5, 2014 (146 of 152)
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I've heard tales (and that's all they are, nothing substantiated) a fair few ABC master tapes were flogged off to wealthy Japanese collectors when the label was bought out by MCA in '79. Whether that's got anything to do with the missing Aja multi's or it was just negligence.. wouldn't be the first time tapes have gone missing... only to be discovered later in a broom cupboard or some far flung country.. due to somebody's incompetence or lack of professionalism.. or whatever.. who knows? Either way, damn shame.. Aja's on my dream come true 5.1 remix wish list!
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fredblue said:
I've heard tales (and that's all they are, nothing substantiated) a fair few ABC master tapes were flogged off to wealthy Japanese collectors when the label was bought out by MCA in '79. Whether that's got anything to do with the missing Aja multi's or it was just negligence.. wouldn't be the first time tapes have gone missing... only to be discovered later in a broom cupboard or some far flung country.. due to somebody's incompetence or lack of professionalism.. or whatever.. who knows? Either way, damn shame.. Aja's on my dream come true 5.1 remix wish list!
Not surprising as some of the world's greatest art treasures reside in "private" museums. But to only sell two missing multitracks..........why not the whole kit and kaboodle?
I have warmed up to my solution: re~record the instrumental tracks, preserve the original vocal tracks and wallah: AJA in 5.1.....it's ONLY two tracks!
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Post by fredblue April 5, 2014 (148 of 152)
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One of the missing Aja multi's is the title track.. for some the recorded music equivalent of a masterpiece painting! ;-)
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fredblue said:
One of the missing Aja multi's is the title track.. for some the recorded music equivalent of a masterpiece painting! ;-)
Fred, with today's technology and supremely ace session players, replicating the exact instrumentals would be a walk in the park as long as the original vocal tracks remain intact.
As we all know, a few years ago there was a restoration of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel ceiling masterpiece.
Everything old becomes new again............
Hardly a sacrilege!
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Post by Rickko February 4, 2015 (150 of 152)
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It was a pleasure for me to read the exceptional review of Aja submitted by fausto K. It is a superb effort that is well presented and very detailed.
It is disconcerting (at least for me) to see far too many reviews submitted on SACD.net that consist merely of a 1 or 2 or 3 brief sentences with little or no information. I have read both positive and negative reviews (although they tend to be negative) of this brief nature that are probably not useful in assisting the reader of the review. In the case of the fausto K review of Aja, the reader receives quality information as a very helpful guide for this particular SHM SACD.
I have SHM SACD of Aja. I happen to agree with fausto K.....it is a great album and the sonics on this version are outstanding (in my opinion).
And for those reviewers who rated the sonics of Aja as 1 or 2 stars, the question should be why am I not hearing the excellent audio quality that most others refer to on this SHM SACD release?
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