Post by Jed March 22, 2005 (61 of 69)
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zeus said:
I can't speak for other genres, but the number of classical SA-CDs from original 16bit/44.1kHz PCM masters would be very small.
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If in doubt, stick with original DSD recordings or transfers from analogue or 24bit/88.2kHz/96kHz PCM masters.
Someone in this tread mentioned SACDs made from RBCD masters, so I was wondering.
Most of the stuff I want was recorded on analog tape 30-40 years ago. To mention a some in particular, I have Billy Joel's "52nd Street" and Carole King's "Tapestry". I have "52nd steet" on LP, original CD, remastered CD, and now SACD. In an A/B comparison I can hear very little (if any) difference between the remastered RBCD and the SACD stereo. For "Tapestry", I have the LP and the original CD, but not the remastered CD, so I can't do the same comparison. However, it doesn't sound very good for an SACD. A third one is Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Texas Flood". I don't have the remastered CD to compare it to, and my guess is that the SACD sound is some of an improvement, but not like most of my SACDs. I have 24 SACDS now (some are 2-disc sets), and these three are the "worst" sounding (i.e. clearly not as good as the other SACDs), and I have several others that were originally recorded in that era.
One thing that these three have in common is that they were all early Sony single layer SACDs. Since Sony was a co-inventor of DSD, I would expect them to be able to do a good job at making SACDs. But these three don't show it, and I was wondering why.
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Post by Dinko March 22, 2005 (62 of 69)
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"DualDiscs are half-CD, half-DVD and half-baked - Music industry takes a step backward"
Says so there: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7269012/
But posting it here is preaching to the converted. :D
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Post by azure March 23, 2005 (63 of 69)
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"When Bruce Springsteen's "Devils & Dust" arrives in stores next month, it will be more than just the singer-songwriter's 19th album. It will also be a milestone for DualDisc, the music industry's first major new physical format since the introduction of the compact disc more than 20 years ago."
I feel you will find that SonyBMG has been pressured into releasing a number of DualDisc titles. . .
I read somewhere else SonyBMG will release a hybrid SA-CD depending on uptake of dualdisc sales but I really believe the independent labels will offer better quality SACD product in the long run/
As for Bruce, his early albums are ok but I wouldn't rush out to buy his later stuff. . .
For those in oz
[refering to hollywood domination of the small widescreen] I like the SBS World Movies channel promo
"I'm boored with the US...A...I'm so bored with the US of A..." bassed on Bruce"s Born in the US pf A
ha ha
I have the Glenn Gould Goldberg Variations Stereo SACd and it sounds so much better than my vinyl copy and reissued CDs
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Post by zem06 March 24, 2005 (64 of 69)
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Dinko said:
"DualDiscs are half-CD, half-DVD and half-baked - Music industry takes a step backward"
Says so there: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7269012/
But posting it here is preaching to the converted. :D
It seems that Sony Europe is taking a step back from DualDisc, as it's been announced that the upcoming Springsteen release will only be available here in double disc (RBCD/DVD) format
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Post by zem06 April 2, 2005 (65 of 69)
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Post by mdt April 2, 2005 (66 of 69)
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azure said:
I have the Glenn Gould Goldberg Variations Stereo SACd and it sounds so much better than my vinyl copy and reissued CDs
Considering the recording date, it was surely not modern high res digital, so transfering those older digital recordings cant be as terrible as often stated here.
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zem05 said:
...DualDisc is meant to be a giant step forward in anything but sales, and by cleverly offering all things to the average consumer (CD for your car, video content, surround sound with any DVD player), they'll probably succeed, at least in the pop/rock area.
Unfortunately, slot loading transports, as most car players are, are the most problematic for DualDisc's non-standard thickness.
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I think DualDisc is killing itself.
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I havn't bothered reading the 7 pages, So i apolgise if im just repeating what someone else has said.
If record companies want Dualdisc to overtake cds, They better release them at the SAME BLOODY PRICE. Saying that, I don't believe dualdisc would take over anyway due to their flimseyness. When cds came out they were mean't to be "Invincible" and this one of the reason's why CDs overtook Records. Nobody is going to take a step back.
If record companies decide to release Hybrid SACD's at the same price of the regular cds, Or release it as SACD only. SACD could stand a small chance becoming more common place. Most ignorant consumers wouldn't know they were buying a SACD, but a lucky few may stick it in their dvd player and discover the beauty of music in 5.1. But that's a long chalk.
I doubt Dualdisc will kill SACD, most people who listen to music in 5.1 know that SACD quality pisses all over Dvd audio. Just compare the SACD/DVD version of Depeche Mode's Violator.
So in conclusion, Dualdisc is teh Sux0rz!11
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