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Available now in Japan and elsewhere I presume. Bought it today downtown and will be listening in the next few days.
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Post by brenda December 15, 2004 (2 of 10)
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flyingdutchman said:
Available now in Japan and elsewhere I presume. Bought it today downtown and will be listening in the next few days.
dear flyingd, please let us know what you think once you've had a chance to listen. I've read very good things about the Harnoncourt ninth but I'm more into the Bruckner masses and other choral works than the symphonies. However, I have a copy of the Sinopoli redbook recording of the 5th on DG and would be very interested to see if the new SACD beats it for sound and/or performance.
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flyingdutchman said:
Available now in Japan and elsewhere I presume. Bought it today downtown and will be listening in the next few days.
The price on the Bruckner 5th is rather reasonable, but the sending to the States is twice the price of the disc. Is there any possibility you could pick this SACD up for me and send it privately? I believe the total price from HMV was about $36. I am trustworthy and a lover of Bruckner.
LAWRENCE SCHULMAN
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Hey, I'd like to do that too! :-)
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Lawrence Schulman said:
The price on the Bruckner 5th is rather reasonable, but the sending to the States is twice the price of the disc. Is there any possibility you could pick this SACD up for me and send it privately? I believe the total price from HMV was about $36. I am trustworthy and a lover of Bruckner.
LAWRENCE SCHULMAN
I'd like to help you out, but right now I'm vacationing in Hawaii and won't be back to Japan until January 7.
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Post by zeus March 22, 2005 (6 of 10)
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Maybe it's because I've just come from the Nagano 3rd (Bruckner: Symphony No. 3 - Nagano), but I think this new performance of the 5th is excellent. So does Gramophone. A monumental journey reveling in Bruckner's waywardness. Very good sound as well, if lacking a bit in weight. I'm really excited to have discovered this.
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Post by Johnno March 22, 2005 (7 of 10)
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I recently received my April "Gramophone" and have listened to the excerpt from the finale on the Editor's Choice CD amd thought it was one of the finest performances I'd heard of it. If the rest of the performance is of the same standard, it's a stunner. The Vienna Phil's playing was superb. My opinion of Harnoncourt as a Brucknerian is definitely on the rise.
Incidentally, I've just purchased his ninth but haven't had a chance to play it yet. If I'm impressed with it, I will get this 5th.
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I received this last month in my massive purchase from JPC (using the links from this site) -- and I have finally had a chance to listen to it. While I will probably be giving some kind of review, here's some basic impressions of what I thought upon my first listen.
I found the interpretation deeply committed and exciting and at every point containing rhythmic vitality! In many ways Harnoncourt's interpretation of the 5th is more revelatory of the score's hidden beauties than his work on the Bruckner 9th (given the latter piece's greater number of exciting interpretations). Harnoncourt has certainly taken liberties with the score that have improved the piece's affect and add character to the piece that I have never heard while listening to recordings from Bohm, Haitink, Inbal, Jochum, Karajan, and Solti. The new gestures that he makes are in variations to the tempi and dynamics, adding unwritten portamenti that would normally be added to any Mozart, Schubert, or Haydn symphony, but are rarely done when performed by heavy-handed Bruckner conductors who skew the music more towards Mahler and (late) Wagner.
This is easily a match and many ways a better performance than my personal favorite version from Karajan of the 70's on DG. I look forward to the continuation of this already formidable Harnoncourt Bruckner cycle, and I am eagerly awaiting the 7th, 4th, 6th, 2nd, and 8th (in order of eagerness) :-) I'm also going to start hoping that he does Te Deum, and Mass #2 and #3. It is a rare time for Brucknerians to rejoice.
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Post by izamber March 23, 2005 (9 of 10)
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peteyspambucket said:
I look forward to the continuation of this already formidable Harnoncourt Bruckner cycle, and I am eagerly awaiting the 7th, 4th, 6th, 2nd, and 8th (in order of eagerness) :-)
There are performances of the 8th with the BPO, 3rd and 4th with the RCO, 8th with the Wiener Philharmoniker already on Teldec. I'm not sure there will be a redo for SACD.
BTW, a new Messiah and some Paris Haydn symphonies are going to be released next. Here's hoping we will have them in SACD...
Igor
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Post by ramesh March 23, 2005 (10 of 10)
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Harnoncourt has certainly taken liberties with the score that have improved the piece's affect and add character to the piece that I have never heard while listening to recordings from Bohm, Haitink, Inbal, Jochum, Karajan, and Solti. The new gestures that he makes are in variations to the tempi and dynamics, adding unwritten portamenti that would normally be added to any Mozart, Schubert, or Haydn symphony, but are rarely done when performed by heavy-handed Bruckner conductors who skew the music more towards Mahler and (late) Wagner.
H's Bruckner 5 is a splendid performance. Don't remember him recording any Mahler or Wagner. It may be more pertinent to mention Harnoncourt's Berlin Phil Brahms cycle a few years back, where the same gestures were much in evidence, perhaps too much so; the opening of Brahms 3 there made even the BPO legato sound anaemic, and the phrasing choppy. Here, the more astringent sound seems to the music's advantage.Slow movement is very brisk, though.
On a separate issue, the recording of this and the Bruckner 9 appears the antithesis of the MTT SFS Mahler, from a seat in the stalls further to the back, and much less instrumental spotlighting.I had to turn up the volume more to get some impact, but both the CD and SACD layers seem less detailed than usual. Do people think this is an artefact of the distant recording? BMG are very coy with the recording info. The Bruckner 9 especially doesn't sound like a DSD recording, though my player is modest in capability.
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