Post by rammiepie March 28, 2010 (151 of 168)
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No matter where the OPPO BDP~83 is manufactured, it has my vote for the most versatile component I have ever inserted into my system. And with the addition of HDMI, a $10 cable has replaced the myriad of wires cluttering my system. And OPPO's tech support is also among the finest. I am sure every high end manufacturer is having nightmares that such a reasonably~priced player can perform at such a high level and the proof in the pudding are the high end charlatans who have used this player as the basis for their rip~off knock~offs. If the record companies were run like OPPO, I'm sure we'd see a change in how to run a successful company who is attentive to its customers.
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Post by fatherom March 30, 2010 (152 of 168)
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The Oppo Blu-Ray player is outstanding...
The video quality is phenomenal, but the sound, even in the standard version of the player, is quite wonderful.
The machine works flawlessly and even tracks some SACD's where the high-res layer tends to mistrack.
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Post by rammiepie March 31, 2010 (154 of 168)
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fatherom said:
The new Oppo BDP-83 beta firmware seems to finally cure the clicks/pops between SACD tracks issue:
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/bdp-83-firmware-50-0323b.aspx
Thank you for the heads~up on the latest firmware update for the BDP~83. I phoned them and at NO charge whatsoever, they are going to send me a physical CD firmware update. I also enquired whether they were going to come out with a 3~D version of the BDP-83 and their reply: We HAVE to! Again, great tech support for a landmark product.
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Post by feinstei April 5, 2010 (155 of 168)
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Please yell if this is a stupid question....
I've just purchased a BDP-83SE from Audio Advisor. I am using as a multi-channel stereo receiver, a Yamaha RX-V3900. Am I best off using the analogue stereo jacks from the BDP-83SE for stereo SACD's and CD's or should I just run HDMI 1.3 cables from the BDP-83SE and the Yamaha RX-V3900, set the BDP-83SE to DSD over HDMI, and be done with it?
I guess what I'm really asking is, are the DAC's found and the stereo analogue output jacks of the BDP-83SE better than the DAC's in the Yamaha RX-V3900 for doing the DSD to analogue decoding?
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Post by AmonRa April 5, 2010 (156 of 168)
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feinstei said:
I guess what I'm really asking is, are the DAC's found and the stereo analogue output jacks of the BDP-83SE better than the DAC's in the Yamaha RX-V3900 for doing the DSD to analogue decoding?
Impossible to say without thorough testing. Why not try both and if you hear no difference it does not matter?
My guess would be that as OPPO BDP-83SE "audiophile" version has been built especially to give superior DA audio conversion, it is not easily beaten by a fairly standard do-it-all AV reciever.
I just ordered the BDP-80 "transport only" version, as my DAC is done by Crane Song Avocet monitor controller.
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feinstei said:
Please yell if this is a stupid question....
I've just purchased a BDP-83SE from Audio Advisor. I am using as a multi-channel stereo receiver, a Yamaha RX-V3900. Am I best off using the analogue stereo jacks from the BDP-83SE for stereo SACD's and CD's or should I just run HDMI 1.3 cables from the BDP-83SE and the Yamaha RX-V3900, set the BDP-83SE to DSD over HDMI, and be done with it?
I guess what I'm really asking is, are the DAC's found and the stereo analogue output jacks of the BDP-83SE better than the DAC's in the Yamaha RX-V3900 for doing the DSD to analogue decoding?
You will have to judge for yourself what pleases you. There is more involved than just HDMI vs. analog transmission of the signal or player DACs vs. those in the prepro/AVR. Most prepros and many AVR's have very sophisticated DSP processors allowing better, more flexible bass management, easier, more accurate setup, and (roll of the drums) excellent EQ, such as Audyssey or Anthem ARC. Most prepros and AVR's cannot convert A-D. Even so, that additional conversion would likely degrade the sound over straight digital HDMI in. Therefore, HDMI opens the door to these DSP advances, whereas analog transmission does not, since the DSP in the player is quite limited.
I myself am an HDMI guy, which performs exceedingly well in a host of different systems I have heard. My view, without having heard the SE, is that it is intended to give better sound than the non-SE into older analog-based systems. But, in general the best overall sound, IMHO, is obtainable via HDMI into a quality prepro or AVR using the DSP features inside that you already paid dearly for.
Of course, we are not even considering the low cost, clutter reduction and convenience of HDMI cabling vs. analog.
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Post by stvnharr April 5, 2010 (158 of 168)
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AmonRa said:
I just ordered the BDP-80 "transport only" version, as my DAC is done by Crane Song Avocet monitor controller.
"Transport only" version?????????
Nothing wrong with using an outboard dac, but that means you DON'T do sacd.
This is an open forum of course, but it's an sacd forum.
Your posts under your various monikers are quite hilarious, but don't you have something better to do with your time than waste it here? Sure it's your time to do with as you please, but.................
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stvnharr said:
"Transport only" version?????????
Nothing wrong with using an outboard dac, but that means you DON'T do sacd.
This is an open forum of course, but it's an sacd forum.
Your posts under your various monikers are quite hilarious, but don't you have something better to do with your time than waste it here? Sure it's your time to do with as you please, but.................
Yeah,
I was wondering the same. Strange puppy indeed.
Cheers
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stvnharr said:
"Transport only" version?????????
Nothing wrong with using an outboard dac, but that means you DON'T do sacd.
This is an open forum of course, but it's an sacd forum.
Your posts under your various monikers are quite hilarious, but don't you have something better to do with your time than waste it here? Sure it's your time to do with as you please, but.................
Agreed about his time wasting, as I am also doing by replying about his post. But, the BDP-80 has DACS. He is just not using them. And, I believe he can listen to SACD with an external DAC in PCM converted mode at 88k. Not looking to start another argument, but hi rez PCM conversion from DSD is also insignificantly different from pure DSD in all the listening I have done, though not with this player.
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