Post by AudioGod December 28, 2009 (51 of 61)
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I think there *has* to be a good choice of hi-res music in online music stores, before people see it is there and start getting interested. I do not find much stores that do this, though. A couple offer 96kHz/24bit. See, these days it gets more popular to have one digital media server in the house, which can serve both Ipod freaks and high end lovers (plug your fine DAC into your home network).
I think this is a weakness of SACD (DSD).. There are no PCs / audio cards that can play DSD. For gods sake, why? (a guess: labels fear illegal downloads.... There would be, but I think it would be a growth trigger).
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Post by michi December 29, 2009 (52 of 61)
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Actually, there are. They aren't cheap, but they do exist.
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AudioGod said:
I think this is a weakness of SACD (DSD).. There are no PCs / audio cards that can play DSD. For gods sake, why?
PCs with DSD playback: yes; with SACD playback: no. Sony and Philips constructed the format such that this was prevented. Why? Presumably to address record industry's fears.
> Post by michi Today 01:50 am (52 of 52)
> Actually, there are. They aren't cheap, but they do exist.
Well, only available to professional recording studios, yes. Not even because of price but again because of piracy concerns.
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The Seventh Taylor said:
Well, only available to professional recording studios, yes. Not even because of price but again because of piracy concerns.
There's a huge problem of piracy (just look at record sales in this decade, the biggest selling titles were from the year 2000 - enough said), but still I'm curious how the industry evolves in the 2010-2020 period, if there's a move to downloads Sony WILL HAVE TO introduce their new DSD download format unless of course they just want to sell Apple's AIFF or Microsoft's WMA downloads...
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audioholik said:
Sony WILL HAVE TO introduce their new DSD download format
They already did (just stereo, admittedly), only even *far* more silently than SACD. I know only one label and one independent group who've adopted it thus far.
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Post by AudioGod December 29, 2009 (56 of 61)
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I know there is at least *some* PC hardware that can handle DSD, but I was talking about the kind that's really accessible for consumers. Affordable, and no DRM.
As I see it, they can choose: continue the fear and struggle for yet another decade, or give in, and do what's right. You have to admit that the former feels stiff and a bit like dying. The latter is the way of success and mass adoption of the best digital format.
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Post by AudioGod December 29, 2009 (57 of 61)
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The Seventh Taylor said:
They already did (just stereo, admittedly), only even *far* more silently than SACD. I know only one label and one independent group who've adopted it thus far.
I'm interested... tell me about it, please.
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The Seventh Taylor said:
They already did (just stereo, admittedly), only even *far* more silently than SACD.
I meant "introduce commercially",
Sony already lost the battle to Apple with iPods, back in the 90s I had Sony's walkman and today I'm using iPod like millions of people worldwide, they lost the market they used to be a leader on, but if the music downloads market continues to grow in the next decade, they will have to do something about it (I think that when time is right they will eventually introduce their DSD music servers, supporting DSD stereo and multichannel, and make DSD files available for download).
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Post by TerraEpon December 29, 2009 (59 of 61)
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The Seventh Taylor said:
Well, only available to professional recording studios, yes. Not even because of price but again because of piracy concerns.
Which is perhaps part of the irony -- if they allowed it, it would probably be a much more popular format.
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Post by michi December 30, 2009 (60 of 61)
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depends on what you mean by 'popular'. Most people under 30 laugh derisively at the very thought of paying for music. (Or movies or software.) -- That's the way it's headed though, and not much can be done about it.
The best thing to do is for people who do like SACD, to support the artists and small studios still doing SACD...
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