Post by Ear May 7, 2009 (11 of 85)
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I guess the reason for the revival of DVD-A, is the fact that blu ray took of. Blu ray still plays DVD'S (as far as I know) so you can at least listen to the DD and DTS track on the DVD and through the hype arrodun blu ray, people are more familiar now with those audio formats as before, I guess (DTS and DD). For Surround, actually, DVD-A is more campatible than SACD, for which you need a SACD player to hear the surround layer. A DVD-A can be played (most of the times) on normal DVD-players as well and you still get the surround sound. And, perhaps, the licencing fees and mastering costs are much lower?
Just a thought, but I would have loved to have them on SACD. Which lable are they on?
What I dread though, is that the Advance Resolution tracks (if they appear at all)will be in 48/24. Like those on the latest Steve Wilson release. Let's hope they will be at least in 94/24.
@flyingdutchman
There was a discussion going on, when they would come out on SACD, so know we know that they will never, what is wrong with getting this information out to us?
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Post by yb May 7, 2009 (12 of 85)
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rammiepie said:
It has been confirmed on May 1, 2009 on Surroundablog that the Steve Wilson King Crimson 5.1 remasters will be in the DVD-Audio format. As previously mentioned, Red and Lizard will be released in June with Court of the Crimson King to be released in October. It is expected that 10 5.1 DVD-As, in all, will be released in this series.
The King Crimson albums a famous for their excellent sound. The 2003 remasters where very good : at last, a recent remaster that did not fell into the loudness war !
I listned them again last week, and I confirm : KS is the best band of the fisrst half of the 70's. It's music, it's sound is always fresh.
King Crimson in DVD-A . Good news. But I'd prefered in SACD.
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Ear said:
I guess the reason for the revival of DVD-A, is the fact that blu ray took of. Blu ray still plays DVD'S (as far as I know) so you can at least listen to the DD and DTS track on the DVD and through the hype arrodun blu ray, people are more familiar now with those audio formats as before, I guess (DTS and DD). For Surround, actually, DVD-A is more campatible than SACD, for which you need a SACD player to hear the surround layer. A DVD-A can be played (most of the times) on normal DVD-players as well and you still get the surround sound. And, perhaps, the licencing fees and mastering costs are much lower?
Sorry but what you're making doesn't make much sense. If you play a DVD-Audio disc on a DVD-Video (compatible) player you just get 2.0 PCM or 2.0-5.1 Dolby Digital. There is no point going through the complications of making and releasing a DVD-Audio disc if the DVD-Video-compatible content is all that's used.
What would make sense is if DVD-Audio made a revival in Blu-ray Disc players because it's much more similar to how audio is stored on BD than SACD. For some reason however this hasn't happended. BD players with DVD-Audio support are even rarer than ones with SACD support. Only Panasonic's 1st generation and Oppo's BDP-83 have it (and apparently it cost Oppo a great deal of effort to get it to work). SACD playback is offered on models by Oppo, Denon, Marantz and more.
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Post by Sam May 7, 2009 (14 of 85)
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Is there something that prevents making a DVD-Video/SACD disk (non-hybrid)?
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DSD said:
Be careful what you ask for? Don't forget Universal players also play CDs and DVDs, I don't relish the idea of tons of posts about Dolby and DTS Surround Sound music CDs and DVDs.
Also the King Crimson stuff SHOULD be on SACD not Digital Audio, as In The Court of the Crimson King was announced as a new SACD release in 2001 and was even in one of Sony's SACD catalogs and kept getting delayed. So eight years later they finally get around to releasing it and it is on DVD-Audio instead of the PROMISED SACD, something is dreadfully wrong. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN SACD!!!!!
And don't forget that Dark Side of the Moon was announced as a DVD-Audio and Sony bribed EMI to release it in sacd........divine retribution. But Steve Wilson's mixes should not disappoint (witness his mixes for Porcupine Tree) And one website has listed is as a full-blown DVD-A and not dts or DD. But we've been F**KED before [excuse my venacular].
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That really sucks. It's not Sony is it? If it is it'll be a DVD-Video with crappy Dolby 5.1 and 16/48 "Enhanced Stereo".
This should have been SACD.
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Wow - I can't wait to hear what a high def Mellotron sounds like.
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DSD said:
Also the King Crimson stuff SHOULD be on SACD not Digital Audio, as In The Court of the Crimson King was announced as a new SACD release in 2001 and was even in one of Sony's SACD catalogs and kept getting delayed. So eight years later they finally get around to releasing it and it is on DVD-Audio instead of the PROMISED SACD, something is dreadfully wrong.
Is Sony supposed to be releasing a DVD-Audio disc? I don't believe that.
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Post by DSD May 8, 2009 (19 of 85)
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The Seventh Taylor said:
Is Sony supposed to be releasing a DVD-Audio disc? I don't believe that.
Sony's SACD catalog's list all record labels releasing SACDs. If you have Sony's 2002 SACD catalog 01.02 you will find King Crimson's "In The Court of the Crimson King" on page 35. The SACD listing says it is a Virgin recording catalog number SACDVKC1, if it is still owned by Virgin, it will be Virgin releasing a DVD-Audio disc. There are many other NO SHOW SACDs, but most didn't actually make it into one of Sony's SACD catalogs, King Crimson did.
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The Seventh Taylor said:
Is Sony supposed to be releasing a DVD-Audio disc? I don't believe that.
KC was released in the US through Atlantic Records NOT SONY. But I believe King Crimson now owns the rights to their music because the 5.1 remasters are NOT on Atlantic....and Atlantic Records did support DVD-A when the world was young.
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