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I have just upgraded my player (same make - much higher model) and am amazed with the difference.
Disks that sounded bass light and hard hitting now have both better bass slam and bloom.
A typical example is Michael Jacksons Thriller which I used to find really flat and fatiguing. I now realise it was the player.
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impalaboy said:
I am new to the SACD format, although very familiar with the DVD-Audio format (via DVD Video player).
I have acquired about 20 SACD discs over the years and finally got an SACD player.
My experience with the multi-channel discs has been as expected. However, the stereo-only discs seem to severely lack bass. The player is connected via the 6 RCA outputs of the player, and the player is set to small speakers (which I have).
Do I need to connect the regular RCA left & right channels to the receiver for playing stereo-only discs or should I be able to play them through the multi-channel connections?
Any other suggestions on why the bass is so lacking?
Thanks in advance and I am looking forward to spending some time on this board reading posts and learning.
-Terry
www.3inchcd.com
Others that have already posted here are more familiar with your player and receiver than I am. I am not at all familiar with them, and also lack some technical knowledge that others here may have. I bought my first hi-res player nearly two and a half years ago, and through this forum (and AV Forums), and just "playing about" with my equipment, have learned a lot.
I have the Arcam DV137 universal disc player, and the Arcam AVR350 receiver. Arcam recommend that all music sources are passed through the analogue outputs of the player. That means that I am using a total of 8 leads. I use the stereo pair for all stereo or mono music sources, whether they be CD, SACD or DVD-A. I use the MCH outputs for all multi-channel music, whether hi-res or otherwise, e.g. DTS-CD or DVD-V (like Jean Michel Jarres "Aero" album). Bass is not lacking at all on any of the audio formats. The "advantage" of me using all analogue outputs, as opposed to just the MCH, is that I can choose between playing mono and stereo sources through all speakers in various FX modes, or "direct" where no processing takes place, and sound is only played through the front L and R speakers. Using just the MCH outputs, would "limit" me to just being able to play stereo or mono sources through the front speaker pair only - and only in "direct" mode. Using MCH on my receiver only allows direct mode.
I like listening to all music sources through all speakers, you may of course be different. I don't know if your receiver offers similar options to mine, but for the price of a couple of phono leads, it might be worth a try.
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Kutyatest said:
Others that have already posted here are more familiar with your player and receiver than I am. I am not at all familiar with them, and also lack some technical knowledge that others here may have. I bought my first hi-res player nearly two and a half years ago, and through this forum (and AV Forums), and just "playing about" with my equipment, have learned a lot.
I have the Arcam DV137 universal disc player, and the Arcam AVR350 receiver. Arcam recommend that all music sources are passed through the analogue outputs of the player. That means that I am using a total of 8 leads. I use the stereo pair for all stereo or mono music sources, whether they be CD, SACD or DVD-A. I use the MCH outputs for all multi-channel music, whether hi-res or otherwise, e.g. DTS-CD or DVD-V (like Jean Michel Jarres "Aero" album). Bass is not lacking at all on any of the audio formats. The "advantage" of me using all analogue outputs, as opposed to just the MCH, is that I can choose between playing mono and stereo sources through all speakers in various FX modes, or "direct" where no processing takes place, and sound is only played through the front L and R speakers. Using just the MCH outputs, would "limit" me to just being able to play stereo or mono sources through the front speaker pair only - and only in "direct" mode. Using MCH on my receiver only allows direct mode.
I like listening to all music sources through all speakers, you may of course be different. I don't know if your receiver offers similar options to mine, but for the price of a couple of phono leads, it might be worth a try.
So here's what I found after a few tests using the Meat Loaf "Bat out of Hell" stereo-only SACD:
Listening through multi-channel output (6xRCA cables): non-existent bass.
Listening through stereo output (2xRCA cables): not much bass.
Listening to standard CD (non-SACD) through stereo output: not much better.
Listened to standard CD on different player with optical output: sounded about the same.
The SACD had a little better stereo separation than the standard CD, but the quality of the sound was about the same no matter which disc, which player and configuration I used. Multi-Channel discs have PLENTY of bass.
By the way, when I checked the bass settings on the player, it was cranked all the way up to +10.
Maybe this isn't the best disc to test this with but it's the only stereo-SACD and standard CD I own. Wait...I might own Journey's Greatest Hits in both formats...
Thanks again for everyone's input.
-Terry
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impalaboy said:
So here's what I found after a few tests using the Meat Loaf "Bat out of Hell" stereo-only SACD:
Listening through multi-channel output (6xRCA cables): non-existent bass.
Listening through stereo output (2xRCA cables): not much bass.
Listening to standard CD (non-SACD) through stereo output: not much better.
Listened to standard CD on different player with optical output: sounded about the same.
The SACD had a little better stereo separation than the standard CD, but the quality of the sound was about the same no matter which disc, which player and configuration I used. Multi-Channel discs have PLENTY of bass.
By the way, when I checked the bass settings on the player, it was cranked all the way up to +10.
Maybe this isn't the best disc to test this with but it's the only stereo-SACD and standard CD I own. Wait...I might own Journey's Greatest Hits in both formats...
Thanks again for everyone's input.
-Terry
Not particularly useful info. You should tell us all the connections and all the settings if you want help with the diagnosis. For example, if the bass settings on the player (which bass settings?) are at +10, something must be preventing that from getting through.
Kal
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