Thread: The inherent superiority of the SACD medium

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Post by audioholik March 4, 2009 (11 of 29)
RWetmore said:

What this shows is the digital representation, which you don't actually hear. What matters is what the wave looks like after conversion back to analog.

according to DXD paper the pulse response "is a measure of the timing precision of the digital representation of the signal" do you think it doesn't matter?

Post by hamblis March 4, 2009 (12 of 29)
RWetmore said:

.......what matters is what the wave looks like after conversion back to analog.

Surely what really matters is what the music sounds like after conversion back to analogue?

For what it's worth, I'm a SACD supporter but not to the exclusion of CD which is by far the largest part of my collection. It's interesting to me that systems which upsample CD to DSD (EMM Labs, Esoteric, dCS) let well presented CD sound almost indistinguishable from SACD. I wonder if one of the real benefits of SACD is the care that goes into recording and mastering, generating higher standards in this area across all formats?

Post by RWetmore March 4, 2009 (13 of 29)
audioholik said:

according to DXD paper the pulse response "is a measure of the timing precision of the digital representation of the signal" do you think it doesn't matter?

Yes, I think it doesn't matter.

Post by audioholik March 4, 2009 (14 of 29)
hamblis said:

I wonder if one of the real benefits of SACD is the care that goes into recording and mastering

no doubt great sound engineering and mastering skills are a real benefit, but so is DSD/SACD format, as Teresa said on her sacdlives blog, everything is important to make great sounding recording

http://sacdlives.blogspot.com/2009/02/everything-is-important-to-make-great.html

Post by flyingdutchman March 4, 2009 (15 of 29)
RWetmore said:

Yes, I think it doesn't matter.

BTW, Randall, I did get the Leibowitz Mussorgsky cd from a vendor on Ebay from Taiwan.

Post by RWetmore March 4, 2009 (16 of 29)
flyingdutchman said:

BTW, Randall, I did get the Leibowitz Mussorgsky cd from a vendor on Ebay from Taiwan.

And what do you think of it?

BTW, who are you?

Post by Paul March 4, 2009 (17 of 29)
braver said:

The most recent challenge is not vinyl but tape:

http://tapeproject.com/

Unless I am mistaken, every time you play a tape you physically lose information due to the tape running over the heads. Over time the signal would have to deteriorate. It might sound pleasant and for those who prefer it more power to them. Perusing the cost of the gear, the likelihood of deterioration, and, more importantly, the limited software, I think I'll pass.

Post by flyingdutchman March 4, 2009 (18 of 29)
RWetmore said:

And what do you think of it?

BTW, who are you?

I keep that anonymous. Anyway, very impressed with the Nights on Bald Mountain.

Post by hiredfox March 5, 2009 (19 of 29)
Certainly becoming a rambling thread. To return to the point, PCM at any frequency loses more of the information than it presents so depends always on compensatory algorithms to reconstruct the music signals. Ladder DAC networks are surely impossible to make accurately enough to deliver any consistency of output signal and never forget that higher bit rates only make matters WORSE.

OK, so simple low pass filters are not brilliant but sure as eggs they are better than that.

Post by RWetmore March 5, 2009 (20 of 29)
flyingdutchman said:

I keep that anonymous. Anyway, very impressed with the Nights on Bald Mountain.

Can you give me your first name?

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