Post by crubio February 23, 2009 (1 of 24)
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Has anyone listened to the DVD-A versions and compared them to the SACD lavers?
Also wondering which is the best software to use in ripping the DVD-A files so I may play them from the memory.
Thanks
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Post by Claude February 24, 2009 (2 of 24)
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Do you mean the DVDs from the box sets? These are DVD-V, not DVD-A.
"The DVDs each contain the whole album mixed in Dolby Digital 5.1 and 96kHz / 24bit DTS"
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Post by crubio February 24, 2009 (3 of 24)
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Claude said:
Do you mean the DVDs from the box sets? These are DVD-V, not DVD-A.
"The DVDs each contain the whole album mixed in Dolby Digital 5.1 and 96kHz / 24bit DTS"
My apologies, yes, I meant DVD-V.
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crubio said:
My apologies, yes, I meant DVD-V.
Dear Crubio,
The DVD-V is coded in some compression format like MP3, DD etc. not worth it to move the files to audio only in a PC, because the quality is very low and hard work.
And if the DVD-V are Linear PCM also not worth the work, because the DVD-V is a 24 bits format and only 8bits are for sound and 16bits are for image.
So, of course the sound of 8bits music is bad, at MP3 quality level.
My advice is you listen these discs in a DVD player and leave as is.
Best Regards,
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Post by Claude February 24, 2009 (5 of 24)
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DTS 96/24 can provide very good sound, but it is still a lossy compression format.
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Post by crubio February 24, 2009 (6 of 24)
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Claude said:
DTS 96/24 can provide very good sound, but it is still a lossy compression format.
On my system, the instruments have more detail and separation in the DVD-V layer
compared to the SACD. I'm finding this very surprising and makes me wonder if my unit is defective.
I'm using a Modwright 999 ES which is a modded Sony player, tube output.
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Post by dobyblue February 25, 2009 (7 of 24)
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I would wonder the same. I haven't gotten the newest set yet, but with the first two box sets I found the SACD to sound much less like a digital recording than the dts or Dolby mixes. The separation sounded more discrete, less muddled, the frequency response sounded more purposeful.
Comparing Squonk, Tonight, Tonight, Tonight, Your Own Special Way and Behind The Lines from various discs throughout the first two sets in each case had the same results to my ears, that the SACD remixes sounded superior to the dts 24/96 mixes.
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Post by eesau February 25, 2009 (8 of 24)
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crubio said:
On my system, the instruments have more detail and separation in the DVD-V layer
compared to the SACD. I'm finding this very surprising and makes me wonder if my unit is defective.
I'm using a Modwright 999 ES which is a modded Sony player, tube output.
Hi,
I also think that for some reason the DVD-V sounds better than the SACD in multichannel. The mix is better ... perhaps?
For stereo, they have just increased the level of high frequencies.
But the videos are interesting ....
Esa
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FullRangeMan said:
And if the DVD-V are Linear PCM also not worth the work, because the DVD-V is a 24 bits format and only 8bits are for sound and 16bits are for image.
Are you sure this is correct? I thought that DVD-V used all 24 bits for LPCM audio.
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ciderglider said:
Are you sure this is correct? I thought that DVD-V used all 24 bits for LPCM audio.
Dear CiderGlider,
Yes, when the DVD-V is PCM Linear or LPCM, 8bits are allocated to sound and 16bits are allocated to image, cause the image need more bits space than audio.
But when the DVD is Audio only (DVD-A) and are LPCM, the 24bits are all dedicated to sound, cause there is no need to reserve bits to image.
DVD is not my ground, but I never see a DVD-V with LPCM sound, always is used a compression format for audio, as DTS, DD/AC3 etc...
Sincerely,
Full
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