Post by Goodwood July 4, 2008 (11 of 29)
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eesau said:
Hi,
BluRay Audio discs will be returned to the seller if there is no simultaneous video content with audio. BluRay Audio discs will be confused with the actual BluRay discs ... not with CDs ever.
My guess is that this kind of discs will not be distributed widely but they will be sold in the same specialist shops that sell other marginal discs like SACDs and LPs.
Esa
Its a good point. Why not put them in SACD cases? As long as they are clearly labeled and put in the music section there shouldn't be a problem.
Unlike SACD the audio discs are a subset of the overall standard (I hope) so at least they should play in all BD players.
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Post by soundboy July 7, 2008 (12 of 29)
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After an absence of 2+ years, looks like Hong Kong Universal has just "re-launch" SACD with 4 new titles in mini-LP sleeves at super low prices. Kind of odd that new SACD releases are selling at bargain prices while HK Universal's own LPCD releases are selling at close to US$30.00/each.
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Post by soundboy July 7, 2008 (14 of 29)
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The Seventh Taylor said:
What are the titles?
Titles from local artists of HK Universal's own catalog....
http://www.yesasia.com/us/%E7%B2%B5%E8%AA%9E%E9%9F%B3%E6%A8%82/0-0-0-bpt.45_ni.105-en/list.html
You can see the titles as the newest products. I read about these 4 titles on a Hong Kong website last night and I was skeptical. I check several HK e-tailers whether they have them....nope. However, given that yesasia.com is now carrying them, I am thinking these are real releases.
HK has always been relatively welcoming of SACD, in light of 2 HK Sony SACD releases plus other titles from smaller independent labels. However, I am somewhat surprise at the relatively low prices for these SACDs. In HK, each of these titles are selling at about US$6.00/each. HK Universal has previously had a massive back catalog release on mini-LP CDs that were also similarly priced. Given that HK Universal always comes up with a new "gimmick" to market its back catalog every year, perhaps inexpensive SACD is the "gimmick" this year.
Edit - now that I think about it, those mini-LP CDs were rumored to be DSD-remastered (but doesn't carry a DSD logo like the Rolling Stones remastered CDs), maybe HK Universal is recycling its remastered works....
Edit #2 - Confirmed new SACDs come in paper sleeves
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Most incredible in that story is that consumers and "the majors" don't even know what they are missing.
If consumers did take the time to listen at least one SACD, they would realize that pleasure is not in downloading kilometers of mp3, but to enjoy live-like quality music.
The majors should also realize that SACD is the perfect answer to piracy, this provides the disc the only reason to continue to exist as a physical media.
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Chrobrego said:
Most incredible in that story is that consumers and "the majors" don't even know what they are missing.
If consumers did take the time to listen at least one SACD, they would realize that pleasure is not in downloading kilometers of mp3, but to enjoy live-like quality music.
The majors should also realize that SACD is the perfect answer to piracy, this provides the disc the only reason to continue to exist as a physical media.
Mate, nobody here would argue with that, but hundreds of millions around the world don't see it that way. They prefer crumby, over-compressed, MP3 tracks.
Therefore, many liek myself, have resigned themselves to the next best thing - blu ray (will be less successful than SACD for purely music in my estimaiton, but can still hope), and high-quality (read, "studio quality") downloads.
Incidentally, I was listening to Ladysmith Black Mambazo's "long Walk to Freedom" last night, after re-configuring my Onkyo receiver's Audyssey settings. And was blown away by how good SACD actually sounds on a dedicated (albeit multi-functional) system.
The shame is, that having reach the point of developing a medium that is truely highly fidelitous to the original sound, the consumer in the main puts convenience ahead of sound quality. That's their perogative, but to me it's a sad indictment of the modern "convenience over purity" mindset.
Because of my taste of music, I will have to straddle that divide. Sigh
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Post by Claude July 9, 2008 (17 of 29)
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Chrobrego said:
The majors should also realize that SACD is the perfect answer to piracy, this provides the disc the only reason to continue to exist as a physical media.
This is an illusion. There is no perfect answer to piracy. If all music was released on single layer SACDs only, the music would still be made available on p2p networks, because it can be recorded from the analogue outputs of the player.
You can actually find on the internet DVD-A or DTS-CD copies of the (copyprotected) multichannel layer of some SACDs. Of course this involves some sound quality loss, but for most people the important feature of SACD is the multichannel content, not the hi-rez aspect.
At the same time, most music buyers refuse single layer SACDs, because they expect SACDs to be playable on CD players and be copied onto their iPod.
So single layer SACDs would not stop piracy and not be accepted by the consumer.
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Call back yesterday, bid time return.
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Claude said:
This is an illusion. There is no perfect answer to piracy. If all music was released on single layer SACDs only, the music would still be made available on p2p networks, because it can be recorded from the analogue outputs of the player.
Some will argue if SACD were more popular it would be cracked.
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Post by soundboy July 10, 2008 (20 of 29)
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soundboy said:
After an absence of 2+ years, looks like Hong Kong Universal has just "re-launch" SACD with 4 new titles in mini-LP sleeves at super low prices. Kind of odd that new SACD releases are selling at bargain prices while HK Universal's own LPCD releases are selling at close to US$30.00/each.
OK, from what I've gathered about these 4 "new" SACDs from HK Universal Music, looks like these were originally planned for release back in 2003. All 4 SACDs carry copyright dates from 2003. I have heard that several years back HK Universal had advertised SACD titles in print ads but never released them. Perhaps these were amongst those titles.
I've ordered all 4 titles and I should receive them soon. As for HK Universal, the last release was a promo-only SACD single from a couple of years ago.
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