Thread: Can a song on SACD be ripped?

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Post by douglashuang September 1, 2003 (1 of 5)
I listen to most of my musics on a MP3 player because of its small size. I like the option of listening to my CDs on my MP3 player. Before I invest in a SACD player and SACDs, I would like to know if I can rip songs from an SACD. Can someone tell me? Do you know if my computer CD-ROM is compatible with SACD?

Thanks.

Post by zeus September 1, 2003 (2 of 5)
douglashuang said:

I listen to most of my musics on a MP3 player because of its small size. I like the option of listening to my CDs on my MP3 player. Before I invest in a SACD player and SACDs, I would like to know if I can rip songs from an SACD. Can someone tell me? Do you know if my computer CD-ROM is compatible with SACD?

Most(?) computer CD and DVD drives can read the CD-compatible layer of a hybrid SACD. All mine do. And most SACDs coming out these days seem to be hybrids. The quality on the CD-compatible layer is more than adequate for MP3! You may want to just buy a SACD and give it a try to see if your drive is compatible. All this assumes that extra copy protection hasn't been added, but this is the same for CDs.

Stephen

Post by sound_labs September 1, 2003 (3 of 5)
douglashuang said:

I listen to most of my musics on a MP3 player because of its small size. I like the option of listening to my CDs on my MP3 player. Before I invest in a SACD player and SACDs, I would like to know if I can rip songs from an SACD. Can someone tell me? Do you know if my computer CD-ROM is compatible with SACD?

Thanks.

I wonder why you would want to get an SACD player only to rip it to MP3? That's like going from CD to 8-track, but okay, I'll entertain the question.


Okay, it's a Yes and No thing. For HYBRID discs, yes you can pop it into your PC and it will be read like a regular CD. You can play, rip and do whatever.


For SACD, it's a yes/no. If it's a pure, single layer SACD, no you can't pop it into your PC, but here's what I've done.

I own a stand alone CD recorder. Those ancient machines were popular before CDRs in PCs got ultra cheap. I run the stereo SACD portion of such a disc from the ANALOG outputs of my SACD player into my CD recorder.

Now, being that it's a pure SACD, I have to manually edited the track indexing so I have to stay put (big pain in the butt) or I can use the auto index but that works by using 4 seconds of silence as a place to add an idex. Some songs flow right into the next, or have too short of a pause, and it doesn't work.

Anyway, once I've got that burned to a CDR, I can do whatever I want with it, including ripping.

But I only did it once to prove I could do it. Why anyone would want to go from the high resolution sound of SACD, and try to rip it, and make an MP3 out of it is a little strange. If you really crave great sound, and just want your music on the go as well, knock yourself out. But if you aren't that picky about sound, don't rush to get SACD anything.

Anyway, in the next few years, everything will be CD/SACD/DVD anyway, so you'll get a player of some sort whether you like it or not (down the road).

The exception to that would be the PC, with the massive MP3 music theft going on right now, don't expect Sony or Philips to approve anything SACD that is related to PCs or the MAC. You can bet on that.


Hope that helps.


- Tony

http://www.epinions.com/user-sslabs

Post by randy September 2, 2003 (4 of 5)
zeus said:

Most(?) computer CD and DVD drives can read the CD-compatible layer of a hybrid SACD. All mine do. And most SACDs coming out these days seem to be hybrids. The quality on the CD-compatible layer is more than adequate for MP3! You may want to just buy a SACD and give it a try to see if your drive is compatible. All this assumes that extra copy protection hasn't been added, but this is the same for CDs.

Stephen

Allow me to add a qualifier to this. I am unable to rip hybrid SACDs on my laptop. The laptop has a built-in CD-RW/DVD-ROM drive and I am running the bundled Roxio Easy CD Creator. What I suspect is happening is the software (or maybe Windows) sees the DVD layer then does not consider the possibility that the disc may also have a CD layer. (Roxio has not responded to my posting to its support forum.)

Ripping hybrid SACDs using a CD-ROM drive has been uneventful.

My reason for doing this is so I can perform A/B comparisons between the CD and SACD layers. (Results to date: I can tell the difference with analogue and DSD recordings, but not with PCM recordings.)

Does anyone have a solution (short of buying an external CD-ROM drive) that would save me from having to copy .wav files from one computer to another (and losing the track name information to boot)? Perhaps someone else has had success with another software package.

Randy

Post by Galley October 20, 2003 (5 of 5)
randy said:

Allow me to add a qualifier to this. I am unable to rip hybrid SACDs on my laptop. The laptop has a built-in CD-RW/DVD-ROM drive and I am running the bundled Roxio Easy CD Creator. What I suspect is happening is the software (or maybe Windows) sees the DVD layer then does not consider the possibility that the disc may also have a CD layer. (Roxio has not responded to my posting to its support forum.)

Ripping hybrid SACDs using a CD-ROM drive has been uneventful.

My reason for doing this is so I can perform A/B comparisons between the CD and SACD layers. (Results to date: I can tell the difference with analogue and DSD recordings, but not with PCM recordings.)

Does anyone have a solution (short of buying an external CD-ROM drive) that would save me from having to copy .wav files from one computer to another (and losing the track name information to boot)? Perhaps someone else has had success with another software package.

Randy

I can rip hybrid SACDs on my laptop, but then again, it's a Sony VAIO! ;-)
Anyway, it has a DVD/CD-RW combo drive.

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