Post by Zev August 28, 2003 (1 of 35)
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Are all multi-channel SACDs two-channel as well as multi-channel?
Or do I have to find this info on the label?
The online listings don't seem to mention these facts.
I have a high-end stereo set up
which is capable of
the most neutral, transparent, wide-sound-staged, detailed sound
and I just want to get the most listening pleasure from it
- and SACD is the ticket.
But I don't want to end up with disks that don't match my system.
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Post by tailspn August 28, 2003 (2 of 35)
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The SACD spec requires that all SACD's must have a two channel mix, at a minimum. It may optionally also have a multichannel, and a two channel Redbook spec CD layer.
Cheers
Tom
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Zev said:
Are all multi-channel SACDs two-channel as well as multi-channel?
Or do I have to find this info on the label?
The online listings don't seem to mention these facts.
I have a high-end stereo set up
which is capable of
the most neutral, transparent, wide-sound-staged, detailed sound
and I just want to get the most listening pleasure from it
- and SACD is the ticket.
But I don't want to end up with disks that don't match my system.
ditto
Don't worry about how a SACD is advertised or described at amazon.com or whatever. If it is in fact a multi-channel disc, there will ALWAYS be a dedicated 2 channel version (no fold down mix as with DVD-A).
The sound is great, jump right in and don't look back
- Tony
http://www.epinions.com/user-sslabs
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MCH SACD sounds best. even a cheap player sounds better with MCH SACD than an expensive player that is STEREO only. Best Buy at the moment is the Sony XA5400ES
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Post by soundboy September 9, 2009 (5 of 35)
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sound_labs said:
Don't worry about how a SACD is advertised or described at amazon.com or whatever. If it is in fact a multi-channel disc, there will ALWAYS be a dedicated 2 channel version (no fold down mix as with DVD-A).
While Sony/Philips mandated a SACD should have a dedicated hi-rez stereo (or mono) mix, not every title actually has one. For example, the SACD of "Ray Charles - Live at the Olympia 2000" is multi-channel surround only....
Ray Charles: Live at the Olympia 2000
Fortunately, there're very few of such SACDs....about 30 according to Zeus' stats.
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Post by Castor September 9, 2009 (6 of 35)
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tailspn said:
The SACD spec requires that all SACD's must have a two channel mix, at a minimum. It may optionally also have a multichannel, and a two channel Redbook spec CD layer.
Cheers
Tom
Not entirely true.
The Decca Eloquence titles have only MC SACD and RBCD layers. No 2-channel SACD layer
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Zev said:
Are all multi-channel SACDs two-channel as well as multi-channel?
Or do I have to find this info on the label?
The online listings don't seem to mention these facts.
I have a high-end stereo set up
which is capable of
the most neutral, transparent, wide-sound-staged, detailed sound
and I just want to get the most listening pleasure from it
- and SACD is the ticket.
But I don't want to end up with disks that don't match my system.
Hallo ZEV,
Nice to hear from a Stereo only lover.........Be Welcome in this Forum...
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Post by Claude September 9, 2009 (8 of 35)
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FullRangeMan said:
Hallo ZEV,
Be Welcome in this Forum...
Better late than never ;-)
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Disbeliever said:
MCH SACD sounds best. even a cheap player sounds better with MCH SACD than an expensive player that is STEREO only. Best Buy at the moment is the Sony XA5400ES
I agree completely about MCH being the end all, be all compared to stereo. I think the best buy at the moment is the Oppo BDP83. I doubt that the sonic difference is very great via the Mch HDMI outputs Oppo vs. the Sony , but I have not heard them side by side. Kal has and has not reported a huge difference. The Sony might be slightly better via its stereo-only analog outputs than the Oppo. But, the Oppo does Mch analog out, Blu-ray, DVD-A and V and CD, whereas the Sony only plays SACD and CD.
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Post by DSD September 9, 2009 (10 of 35)
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William welcome to the wonderful world of 2 channel SACD, we seem to be outnumbered by the Multichannel enthusiasts.
Most SACDs do have a dedicated high resolution 2 channel stereo program these are indicated by "Content: Stereo" or Content: "Stereo/Multichannel". The few SACDs with no stereo hi-res program are indicated as: Content: "Multichannel"
There is only one Telarc without a 2 channel stereo layer: The Big Picture - Kunzel Michael Bishop explained that there was not enough room as the program was too long, so it only has a Multichannel mix and a CD layer. Most 2 channel players cannot mix down Multichannel to Stereo so if your player is one of those you will not be able to play the hi-res layer at all, just the CD layer.
Also as mentioned the 10 titles in the Eloquence budget series of SACDs from DGG, Philips and Decca /search/Eloquence have no hi-res Stereo program.
The other SACDs missing 2 channel stereo programs include:
Dupré: Le Chemin de la Croix - Friedhelm Flamme , Sea Change, The Choral Music of Richard Rodney Bennett - Rutter, Ray Charles: Live at the Olympia 2000 , Tomorrow's Jazz Classics 2005 .
Interesting note on "Sea Change" when contacted about not including a 2 channel stereo hi-res layer Collegium Records said they didn't think one was needed as SACD was a multichannel format and there was a CD layer for 2 channel listeners. They seemed to be blind about the high resolution aspect of SACD and just thought it was a multichannel format, they only released two SACDs and their second one had a hi-res Stereo program.
It is safe to say 99.9% of SACDs have a dedicated 2 channel stereo hi-res program.
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