Post by Derek January 1, 2008 (1 of 31)
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I am a novice to classical music but not to SACD.
What are the better classical titles in terms of fidelity and multichannel mix available on SACD?
I'd love a 'starter list' if you will of titles to purchase to get me going...I do like piano concertos and pieces such as Vivaldi's Four Seasons, more delicate stuff rather than 1812 Overture examples.
Thanks :-)
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Post by Allen January 1, 2008 (2 of 31)
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How about this:
1) Rhapsodies - Stokowski (3.0)
2) Saint-Saens: Symphony No. 3, Debussy: La Mer - Munch (3.0)
3) Tchaikovsky: The Nutcracker - Vedernikov (5.0)
4) Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique - Davis (4.0)
5) Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 7 - Kleiber (5.0)
In general, I found the RCA's 3.0 is better in term of sound impact than many of the 4.0 (RQR), and all the 5.x I have heard. 5.x is very much in its infancy, while the addition of central channel adds most of the sound dimension, that is just my current impression
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Post by zeus January 1, 2008 (3 of 31)
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Derek said:
What are the better classical titles in terms of fidelity and multichannel mix available on SACD?
For the most recommended classical titles, select "Classical" on this page:
/toprecommendations
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Post by Livy January 1, 2008 (4 of 31)
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Derek said:
I am a novice to classical music but not to SACD.
What are the better classical titles in terms of fidelity and multichannel mix available on SACD?
I'd love a 'starter list' if you will of titles to purchase to get me going...I do like piano concertos and pieces such as Vivaldi's Four Seasons, more delicate stuff rather than 1812 Overture examples.
Thanks :-)
I'd recommend the following:
Vaughan Williams: Sym 5, etc., from Spano/Atlanta SO on Telarc
Brahms: String Sextett No. 1, from Kolner Streichsextett (also includes the Busch String Sextett).
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Post by raffells January 2, 2008 (5 of 31)
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Derek said:
I am a novice to classical music but not to SACD.
What are the better classical titles in terms of fidelity and multichannel mix available on SACD?
I'd love a 'starter list' if you will of titles to purchase to get me going...I do like piano concertos and pieces such as Vivaldi's Four Seasons, more delicate stuff rather than 1812 Overture examples.
Thanks :-)
This question comes up often.
The items selected by listeners here will be based on many years listening ,nostalgia for earlier versions etc etc.It will lso include many early MLP/Living Stereo 3 channel analogue items 50 plus years old, with excessive tape hiss, compression etc which dont compare with the more moderen DSD recordings.Even the performances are often inferior.
A good guide to compositions is available in the top 100 ever sold.
This varies from continent to continent.
You can often get a download sampler of the music on some of the sacds sales sites that sacd.net link you to,ie JPC.
Also try www.allmusic.com classial for information even though its US oriented and missing some lesser Euro/Soviet information.
Enjoy your journey,millions have gone before you.Remember yout tastes will change as you engulf more music.So something you dont instantly like may be your favorite work of the future.
Start with Dvoraks New World..Appropriate.?
http://www.musica.co.uk/classical100worksUK.htm
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Allen said:
In general, I found the RCA's 3.0 is better in term of sound impact than many of the 4.0 (RQR), and all the 5.x I have heard. 5.x is very much in its infancy, while the addition of central channel adds most of the sound dimension, that is just my current impression
Wow! I have the opposite impression! I find many 4.0 and 5.0 to be of extraordinary quality. The 3.0 ....not so much!
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Derek said:
I'd love a 'starter list' if you will of titles to purchase to get me going...I do like piano concertos and pieces such as Vivaldi's Four Seasons, more delicate stuff rather than 1812 Overture examples.
Well Derek, here are more than enough to get you started! I think that for a "newbie" the really outstanding few are the Julia Fischer Tchaikovsky violin concerto, the Stokowski Tchaikovsky Serenade for Strings, the Julia Fischer Russian Violin Concertos, and the Paavo Jarvi Stravinsky disc. You certainly should obtain the Saint Saens piano concertos. The Schubert/Liszt Piano music with Luiza Borac is rather exceptional but would depend on your taste right now for solo piano.
You will find violinist Julia Fischer is quite capable of delivering fireworks (splendidly, in fact, when the music calls for it and I really recommend all her recordings whole heartedly) but tonal opulence aside - she has that in spades too - her great strength is that she is a profoundly lyrical player. Note too that the Schubert symphony I listed is called # 8 on the disc but it is in fact "the Great C Major symphony" also known as the "Symphony of heavenly length" and listed in the U.S. as # 9. It is something I recommend obtaining early in your collection! Surely too you will gravitate to the Beethoven symphonies (none listed here). I recommend the Haitink on LSO Live but the new PentaTone series with Herreweghe gives an interesting alternate view and in absolutely splendid multi-channel sound! Marek Janowski's Brahms First (also not on this list) leaves one a little breathless but when you decide to get around to Brahms, that one is an astonishly life like recording and while others may display more "grandeur" I find Janowski's reading quite exciting.
Chopin, Grieg: Cello Sonatas - Kanka, Klepac
Dvorak: Symphony No. 8, The Wild Dove, The Noon Witch - Kreizberg
Falla: The Three Cornered Hat etc. - Pons
Mahler: Symphony No. 5 - Netherlands PO/Haenchen
Martinu: Rhapsody Concerto - Conlon
Mozart: Chamber Music for Winds and Strings - Boston Symphony Chamber Players
Mozart: Piano Concertos Nos. 13 & 24 - Helmchen, Nikolic
Mozart: Violin Concertos Nos. 1, 2 & 5 - Fischer, Kreizberg
Nielsen: Orchestral Music - Dausgaard
Prokofiev, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov - Leschenko, Argerich, Poltera, Lakatos
Rachmaninov: Symphony No. 2, Vocalise No. 14 - Fischer
Russian Violin Concertos - Fischer/Kreizberg
Saint-Saëns: Piano Concertos Vol. 1 - Malikova/Sanderling
Saint-Saëns: Piano Concertos Vol. 2 - Malikova/Sanderling
Schubert: Symphony No. 8 - Nott
Schumann, Dvorak: Piano Concertos - Paolo Giacometti
Shostakovich, Paul Juon: Piano Trios - Trio Paian
Shostakovich/Shchedrin: Piano Concertos - Marc-André Hamelin
Shostakovich: Jazz Suites - Kuchar
Sibelius: Symphony No. 2 - Jansons
Stravinsky - Paavo Järvi
Tchaikovsky: Manfred Symphony - Czech Philharmonic/Kobayashi
Tchaikovsky: Serenade for Strings, Francesca da Rimini - Stokowski
Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 1 etc. - Neeme Järvi
Tchaikovsky: Violin Concerto - Fischer, Kreizberg
Wanderer, Works by Liszt and Schubert - Luiza Borac
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Post by Derek January 3, 2008 (8 of 31)
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Awesome list Windsurfer thanks...
Are true newer DSD classical recordings that much better?
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Derek said:
Awesome list Windsurfer thanks...
Are true newer DSD classical recordings that much better?
The newer mch recordings are wonderful but several of the mch reissues (like the Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique on PentaTone, and E Power Biggs playing Bach on Sony) are also superb. Any such list as I provided has a lot of holes in it. I was remiss when praising the Herreweghe and Haitink Beethoven not to mention the really fine series on BIS with Vanska and the Minnesota Orchestra. Also I made no mention of Debussy's La Mer. Two excellent recordings are the BIS and the ATMA discs. I am partial to the ATMA but the BIS which I gave my father for a birthday present is nothing if not excellent ... and it has some unusual music along with the superb "La Mer". I didn't specifically address the issue of DSD because while I think the best recordings happen to be DSD, I have some DSD recordings which are surpassed by PCM recordings mastered to DSD for SACD.
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Post by zeus January 3, 2008 (10 of 31)
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Derek said:
Are true newer DSD classical recordings that much better?
If you need to be convinced of DSD's superiority, just have a listen to:
Beethoven: Complete Piano Sonatas Vol. 1 - Igor Tchetuev
Most of my SA-CD purchases are of current recordings. There are also some excellent transfers of older recordings that are well worthwhile acquiring on the format.
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