Post by Allen November 14, 2007 (1 of 15)
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Just ordered several Tacet's SACD from jpc.de. Then, I read an article from their website, and their argument about SACD vs DVD-A.
Very disturbed, and my first reaction was to cancel the order if I still can. If they are so negative in their PR against a particular media format, how can they be serious about it? Not to say, they are making such a outdated argument for DVD-A which already have nails tight on the coffin.
Anyone knows their future plan for sacd?
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Post by zeus November 14, 2007 (2 of 15)
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Allen said:
Just ordered several Tacet's SACD from jpc.de. Then, I read an article from their website, and their argument about SACD vs DVD-A.
Very disturbed, and my first reaction was to cancel the order if I still can. If they are so negative in their PR against a particular media format, how can they be serious about it? Not to say, they are making such a outdated argument for DVD-A which already have nails tight on the coffin.
Anyone knows their future plan for sacd?
As an early DVD-A supporter, Tacet's stance hasn't really changed ... just market reality! Their dream of a DVD-A future is just that. There's no reason to change your order. In fact, ordering their SA-CDs is a clear way of registering your interest in future recordings on the format.
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Post by Claude November 15, 2007 (3 of 15)
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Post by Allen November 15, 2007 (4 of 15)
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Too bad, I already cancelled the whole order, I would hate to spend several hundreds dollars while US$ is so weak against euros, anyway.
This is another signal I think I must send them, and I hope someone in Tacet can listen.
As a business, it is always bad to alienate their customers. This is exactly what they are doing by putting such a rubbish into their PR. It is like, a realtor who is a democrat still would not put political propaganda against Bush at their office entrance. I call it professionalism. Look at Universal for example, their support of sacd is diminishing, but they would not do such a thing in their PR section of the website, would they?
If business owner there is taking such a non-professional approach to their customers and business, why would I care if they can survive or not? I know they would not already. That is the business rule, and I used to be in startup company's management team long enough to know something as basic as this.
Well, I do not think I would lose my sleep without their sacd; most of the music they produced has been there for years, a new approach is certainly welcome, but I would not waste money to support them. If they listen to customers, and start to follow business common sense, I may change my mind.
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Post by Allen November 15, 2007 (5 of 15)
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Claude said:
Tacet's arguments in favor of DVD-A are not convincing, especially now that on the classical market SACD has quite some success. They focus on surround sound only, ignoring the hi-rez advantage of both formats.
http://www.tacet.de/download/SituationSACDandDVDA_en.pdf
I had posted on comment on the JPC weblog back in June (in german):
http://weblog.jpc.de/classic/situation-von-sacd-und-dvd-audio,56/#more-56
My point is this:
Everyone is entitled to his own opinions. Blog is exactly for this purpose, a blog article would not alienate a customer like me, even though I know that is their real sentiment.
But putting all those rubbish arguments in a pdf document, with their company logo, on the index page of their website? I would consider that becomes a company business decision or agenda.
Very alienating and non-professional. I can judge from this simple act along that this company does not have solid management team with sound decision-making skills, and a single person may be dictating all operations. Forgive me if I am wrong, I did not have too much time to look into more details in the company.
On a separate thread, I actually think Tacet's belief in surround sound is a good argument (even though they are so blind and outdated for the current DVD-A market situation.). Emphasizing on hi-rez of sacd was a hard sell, and will always be. Market already shows its force, and mass do not care about hi-rez audio because they believe cd and mp3 is already good enough. I know my stand will put myself at odd with many folks here.
I become interested in sacd mostly because of what those RCA LS has shown me: the stunning feel of the 3 channels stereo sound. (I have a sacd system for 5 years, but never used the sacd part until last year...).
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Post by zeus November 15, 2007 (6 of 15)
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Allen said:
Very alienating and non-professional. I can judge from this simple act along that this company does not have solid management team with sound decision-making skills, and a single person may be dictating all operations. Forgive me if I am wrong, I did not have too much time to look into more details in the company.
You might be surprised to learn that not a few labels producing SA-CDs are just a single person. The recording is contracted out. We have these dedicated individuals to thank for their tireless and persistent efforts in what is unlikely to be a huge money spinner.
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Post by terence November 15, 2007 (7 of 15)
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zeus said:
You might be surprised to learn that not a few labels producing SA-CDs are just a single person. The recording is contracted out. We have these dedicated individuals to thank for their tireless and persistent efforts in what is unlikely to be a huge money spinner.
zeus is absolutely right in both his observation and his sentiments - spot on Z. i know a little about the tacet operation and will post more this evening. in work at present.
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Post by ct November 15, 2007 (8 of 15)
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As an early DVD-A purchaser, and later SACD when the multichannel players came out, I early on purchased almost everything in both formats I could find, in stores, and on line. I have all the Tacet releases - and found them uniformly the best available in recording, and in quality performances. Their chamber music recordings especially. They make the argument you can put more music on a DVD-A disc: hence their early Bach recordings. I don't "hear" a difference in quality in either format - both are superb. But the DVD-A's are considerably longer. Hence I suppose you get more for the money. I know they got into SACD's late on, certainly because that was the more popular format, for whatever reason. Not to buy them is a really self limiting proposition. I recommend them all - and if you support the hi rez multichannel experience I don't understand how you can argue against this. If you do - soon your fears of no SACD releases will be self forfilling.
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Post by Perigo November 17, 2007 (9 of 15)
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Allen said:
Too bad, I already cancelled the whole order
Well done, I never will buy any product (SACD or something else) from Tacet.
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Allen & Perigo - a shame because you'll both miss out on some very fine musicianship and some stunning presentations of the works. Oh, and likely fulfil Tacet's preference for DVD-A in the process...
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